I know what his point is, but if u hear me out.
THEY DON’T WANT DPS BARBS! BECAUSE WITHOUT US ZDPS BARBS.THEY GET NOWHERE!!!.
In other words, for the past 18 seasons or maybe 1 less, We have been meta zbarb.
Will you play zdps? I sure wont^
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Learn to love the support builds boys. Its the only way you will get real gems augments and paragon in a short amount of time. Even if they buff barbs this is how you see crazy paragon is short time frames on season leaderboards. Even farming 115s solo in a pre-nerfed ptr ww build running in groups is still alot better.
Does anyone just mentioned the strange balancing for the new Monk set? It is bypassed by some “new” legendaries to realize some TR-Builds. But to use them for a SWK-TR-Builds might be stronger than using the new “TR-Set” … Is that enough for #6?
Than - another more or less not tested thing is the 300ish kill streak seasonal “procc”. The PTR showed us indirect instand “pvp” kills. Since there were no changes listed in the live notes, i am affraid that procc will still oneshot players.
Since there is no possibility to test this special little details until the season starts, it might be possible that the group play will negatively affected. Not sure if this is really intended, eh? So maybe this is woth to be #7 on the list?
Im not against support barb but it cant be only option for barbarians. Also you cant talk for me. I dont want support barb forever.
I completely agree with this. They dont want dps barbs. But this doesnt mean they cant give dps barb option. If you want to be wizards’ support, go on. Me and many others want to be dps.
So stop talking for us. Use “I”, instead of “WE”.
I know your disappointed, But the community has made many attempts on speaking out about ww/rend barb nerf. I don’t like it just as much as you don’t.
At this moment, some of you may believe it will be restored. That’s totally fine with me, but as if this moment and this day. Many others have giving them a chance for the past 18 seasons or less.This was a huge opportunity for them to do so and yet they failed. Give or take, I won’t support them unless they cut the b/s and show us “THEY” are “LISTENING.” ALL HAIL THE KING BARBS!!! see you next season.
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Please don’t destroy the Fist of the Heavens part doing even more so, as already happened between the PTR and now, because the meaning of the set has been completely changed unfortunately.
New Crusader Set: Aegis of Valor
Developer’s Note: …We decided to add Heaven’s Fury to the mix based on popular request as well as because we agree that it matches the theme …
How even does Heaven’s Fury: Fires of Heaven matches the theme? Heaven’s Fury:Blessed Ground would matches the theme so much more!
So, there are many Fist of the Heaven’s: Fissure Fans and many Heaven’s Fury Fans out there! Please find a way to provide fun to both of them. Thank you!
Don’t care. You’re better in Barb than us? That isn’t relevant. You don’t talk for us, you don’t represent us, you don’t tell what we want and what we want not.
I want dps Barb! I want Lamentation buff back!
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Dont change boneringer -thorns solo build is very good and difficult to finish high GR ! Necro is not too strong without cap 60 stacks - after cap 60 stacks = not playable (leave best solo necro build ! ) … also barb is too poor without belt . Crusader need nerf . This is my personal opinion - streamer from Poland - Goom47
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You do care, i don’t know what your issue is with me. It’s like you got something against me? If that is the issue I made you feel that way, that was not my intention. If you do not chose to agree with my actions or opinions, That’s also totally fine with me.
Note: I never said i am better then any, what I was trying to point out is when yall were playing over powered builds. I was pushing crappy ww build to the leaderboards with the help of the others here.
All HAIL THE KING BARB!!!
You can think and defend what do you want we dont care this. Problem is you talk for us. You cant talk for us. As i said before dont use “we”, use “I”.
ALL HAIL THE KING BARB WHO CANT EVEN KILL DEMONS!!!
My suggestion on Bazooka would be:
- Dont destroy it, just nerf it bcs its rly fun to play and also requires good teamplay to deal alot of damage. and is alot of fun to play (as any class in the group meta)
- Revert the patch if you cant adress the issue, so its not macro only playable.
- As stated in 1. nerfing is better than destroying it. Bcs then instead of stating in S16 that how its works is fine shouldnt be stated and fixed then not now.
- There are many ways to nerf the high damage of bazooka, for example:
- Each Archonstack gives instead of 6% increased damage 3%(or whatever is
needed). This would nerf Talrashas/Chantodos but noone is playing this
anymore since Vyrs buff. - Reduce Deathwish/Etched Sigil multiplier. (Would effect other build too, but
also they not played atm). - Reduce Grandvizier affix. (Same as 2) )
- Reduce the damage of Star Pact rune.
- Each Archonstack gives instead of 6% increased damage 3%(or whatever is
- Create alternative to SP in general, bcs 1 burst shot of dps is still the best for the poorly implemented area dmg and servers since otherbuild can/will lagout the servers like good old WD etc.
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You can think and defend what do you want we dont care this. Problem is you talk for us. You cant talk for us. As i said before dont use “we”, use “I”. <----Did you even read what you wrote here? Are you a grammer troll?
You sure about that? to me the set reads like the 2pc is a 800% (2x2x2) multiplier to HF not 300%.
I could be wrong but it sounds like every stack is a complete separate multiplier…
If so it could be just fine to change the multiplier to not stack up multiplicativly but additively instead (like it’s usually the case: Archon stacks, SWK sweeping wind stacks, Blessed Hammer Faithful Memory stacks, etc).
then it would be 300% instead of 800%, which would still be pretty strong but maybe just enough to NOT make it ridiculously OP but still maybe the strongest build there is.
don’t overnerf it 
I wanna play BARB FOR S19! Or no S19 for me at all.
Barb at the moment SUCK BALLS very badly!
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Yeahh the strongest barb build right now uses 1 major bug (fjord bug) and 1 broken mechanic (wall charging). Real sad.
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All the demons in my head are screaming at once. Just make it stop! Make it STOP!
Or instead make changes to the reason Bazooka is able to do what it does? By that, nerfing actually the Bazooka-spec itself instead of “core elements of wizards” to somewhat hurt Bazooka as some kind of collateral damage, too.
Let Star Pact (or even all meteor runes except for Meteor Shower) always instantly strike down? instant strike down like the Lightning Meteor? => too short of a timeframe to be able to start a channeling cast before the meteor hits the ground?
(First, visually Meteor Shower all together instantly hitting the ground would look ridiculous. Second: Bazooka buffing Meteor Shower @ small meteors all together neither is possible, nor would it really wreck too much by Swami-Archon-Channel-Buffing one cast of Meteor Shower alone anyway due to being far too much spreaded out with too small areas each.)
Casting meteor disabling Archon activation (greyed out button) till the moment of impact? This wouldn’t even hurt specs like LoN48 (To some degree a close relative to Bazooka but with proper channeling and Meteor casting during Swami-stack uptime - instead of the Channel-Trigger-Archon @ impact of TEH ONLEH WAN Star Pact meteor for maximized buff-stacking on one golden shot. Archon → Channel-Boom-Boom-Boom → Swami_over → next Archon for new Swami stacks)
BTW, if you ain’t gonna fix Bazooka for season 19, might as well revert your changes back. Because right now after your patch, only macro users can play this. Give all players a chance to play Bazooka for season 19.
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He’s saying that you should use “I” to indicate you’re giving your own opinion (which is fine) rather than “we” to indicate you’re giving the consensus opinion of all Barbs (which you’re not).
Think of it like this…
- I like chocolate ice-cream best.
- Barbs like chocolate ice-cream best.
The second statement doesn’t represent Barbs that prefer strawberry.
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I’d be really interested to see what other new trash clear build can be created that resembles a 30-sec big pop cycle. Perhaps buffing DH’s fan of knvies (that’s a 30-sec CD) and make it work with Shadow set. You do a huge pop every 30 sec. It will play just like Bazooka but a lot easier, and don’t require a macro.