I was kinda ruined by barbarian sucking I’m 70+ so I just recently came back and built my DH. Luckily while finishing my Multishot build, I was able to finish my Impale build as well.
What I’ve learned is, multishot has zero damage reduction in 70+ but can do the damage. I have the full build, and the right reforges. I have the right cubed items, you literally die by anything if you aren’t shooting from 5miles away. Which is the point of the build, I just don’t like that style of gameplay.
When I took Impale into a 70 rift I was like whoa, this is the set they give people for free?? I already used my free armor on my wizard so I had to grind this set. Worth it though, I can survive no problem in 80 or 85 rifts. Takes twice as long to clear than a 75 but man it feels good.
Wish I knew how to not die in 70+ with multishot. I can still run it in like 6 or 7 minutes with dying but it’s not fun dying
… and after you try the above, there are lots of issues with the stats on your gear. If you have the mats to roll a few things, we can make some recommendations that will significantly improve your build.
UE for farming, impale for pushing. UE can push high GR, but impale is just easier to push due to its tankiness and O/P dps.
Craft yourself Cains, Borns, hellfire ring and gamble for Leorics ring at lvl 1, then get a friend to boost you. You will be lvl 70 in 2 rifts and it makes life so much easier than swapping gear and skills (even with the wardrobe function).
How does it make it easier to have to swap characters to change builds?
Yeah, don’t do this. It doesn’t hurt, but why?
You will be taking 7-8 clicks, and 2 load screens to do the same thing you can do with just 3 clicks, and no load screen.
Armoury > Multiple characters.
The only issue with the armoury is, some people claim to have lost gems by using this. I can’t confirm, as I have never lost one, ever. This is also going back a fair while to when the the feature was still new… Knowing Blizz, it may not have been fixed (if it was ever really a problem to begin with).
I told you lol I have the exact build via icyveins, I have hunters wrath it doesn’t do anything I have the tankier build and still get 1 shot despite the damage reduction of evasive shot
You do have the right gear, but your stats are a bit off. Last I looked, IcyVeins didn’t recommend Intelligence on your rings, or evasive fire on any gear. Your amulet did not have a socket and there were a few other items that could use better rolls.
If you just came here to say S6 is stronger than UE, ok, done. If you’d like some help improving your UE we can help. UE is a glassy build, it takes skill and gear that is properly rolled for your play style to succeed. Quite a few of us find UE to be the most fun and satisfying build to run.
Multi-shot > all up to a certain point which is different across player style and skill level. Once you can no longer one shot everything on screen or have to spend more than 10 seconds on a GR elite pack, impale is the way to go. If you’re dying too much with MS, you should probably be playing impale. You’ve reached a GR level where MS is no longer viable either due to gear or skillset. It’s far more forgiving for anyone who lacks knowledge of playing defensively or not gearing appropriately for content level. So in summary MS > Impale until it’s not.
I do up to gr 85 on my ue without much problem. It is my T16 farmer, bounty player and gem leveler to gem 75. I use “non-standard” equipment for max vengeance and for damage reduction including a star ammy for rifts and a mara for gr. Now and then I get one hit but awareness covers it. It’s a very fast build and can easily be made faster.
For greater levels, up to 104 so far, I use shadow impale.
Currently, there are four builds in my wardrobe I switch in and of—UE,
Shadow, N6M4 and Rapid Fire lon. I haven’t lost any gems; however, gems from the build being switched out of go to your stash. I suspect if you had a full stash they might flip out into town like a bounty cache does if your stash is full—not sure of this. Changing sets via wardrobe is quick. It is also efficient saving me three dh character slots and 2 barb character slots, although no inventory space. Once the season is over, I’m going to consolidate all my characters via the wardrobe and overflow my inventory hah hah.
Take some of the given advice. Also, your S6 build is showing in profile now and while gear is “correct”, rolls need a lot of work…you didn’t exactly ask but:
No CC or Impale on helm
low buff/cc on bracers
no CHD on Compass Rose
no elemental on Traveler’s Pledge
meh buff and no CHD on CoE ring
Hungering arrow on pants…
My suggestion is to speed run a boatload of normal rifts at whatever level you can without dying using UE. Lots of mats, keys and usually legs raining from the sky to replace just about every piece of gear you have…then speed run GRs for more leg drops with the keys you farmed.
Eventually you’ll get better gear and get to 800 para which will help across the board.
You also don’t have a follower geared - you know they can be very helpful with CC/heals and things right? Templar meatshield for UE for sure…
Right. So I have four wardrobe builds for my DH, which saves me making three more characters, one for each build. In the past before I started using the wardrobe I’d have a separate character for each build. When the season is over, I’ll consolidate 5 builds into one dh: Ue, Shadow, N6M4, and Rapid Fire. This will free up three character slots as I now have 4 NS DH charaacters to consolidate and will rapid fire as the fifth.
It’s not an answer to inventory space, but does free up character slots. If you did this for 6 NS classes , you could have 30 builds in 6 character slots. Add a mule for each class and you would have plenty of character slots. Now for the extra inventory tabs.
I’m using wardrobe for my character as well. I have 7 different set ups saved for UE, LON, impale and N6M4. I haven’t lost a piece of gear yet due to swapping around. UE is amazing for farming normal rifts etc. Impale properly setup is even faster in my opinion (different maps could obviously affect that and i am not a great UE player, i don’t stutter step etc.)
Impale I can farm 105 GR’s solo in ~5 min or less with a rare death. I can’t touch that as UE, i have to play UE in the 90’s and i die if something sneezes at me.
I assume most of it is due to play style difference, but i love Impale
I guess i should add that i play seasonal HC exclusively. Given that 75% or more of my deaths tend to come due to random connection drops when farming, i do tend to roll multiple chatacters each season, each for different jobs. When the season is done they all get deleted and my account is clean.
I do hate the fact that Bnet for D3 seems to be much less stable than D2.
I have 5 different UE chars and each uses the wardrobe for different set ups. My UE has 7 setups in the wardrobe. I’ve never lost a gem in a wardrobe change, but I always clear my stash before using the wr.
For my play style, S6 is my strongest with a GR120, N6/M4 is second with a 118 (haven’t push it in awhile, so that could be light), and UE is 3rd with a 113.
When the next era starts, I’ll boost the augments on my UE and see how far I can push it.
So to get back on topic; yep, S6 can generally push higher than UE. This is primarily due to the fact that UE is a very high skill build. The top UE players have skills that most of won’t put in the time to acquire.
Currently UE holds the #7 spot on the NS leaderboard.
So DgtiShark, you can improve your UE build so it is not nearly as squishy if you enjoy the play of that build. Just have to take some of the advice offered.
Edit: Bomjac, wish I could blame my HC deaths on server issues. All of mine are due to sitting on my heels when I should be moving
Ive literally done gr 100 in 8min. with ue with zero deaths no augments… If you need more toughness cube gunes+elusive, use wraps of clarity, stay back from mobs, 36cooldown (shoulders, helm, Paragon, gloves+ 1 more item. Mix+match) if you really need more toughness you can run the normal 4 passives+ awareness (hellfire amulet) simple yet easy fixes…
I don’t like multishot at all, just because the build sucks doesn’t mean it takes skill to make it good lol. If you can pull off multishot then good on ya. I grinded all my current gear and have a blast. Just got the flawless royals, got a lot of good gear, augmented my ancient wep. Will Augment more stuff later on. So far I can do 90s in 5min 95 in 7. Depending, but enjoying the end game more now that I understand a bit more. You guys keep telling me to do things I’ve already done. I had all the mitigation stuff cubed it didn’t matter I died by being breathed on regardless lol. Didn’t matter what cool down I used. I enjoy impale more because it requires me to be on my toes vs mindless spam. To be fair impale is spam too but, again multishot fell short very quickly vs impale being good off the bat
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