If Diablo 4 does not have player trading, I won't be buying it - Long time gamer and fan

Or here’s a better idea. You like that so much, you can play D3. I hear you love it so you’ll be fine with that.

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indeed, if D4 is less fun, i stay here.

Well I’ve got good news for you then. I doubt it will be “less”.

the USA version of news then: fake, not factbased lol.

Since you apparently love D3 so much, combined with such low hopes for D4, why arn’t you playing D3 instead of posting about D4 on the forums?

You’re gonna get this whether there’s trading or not. They’ll just outright sell accounts with the items/gold for a higher price. There are prevention methods that can exist, we don’t need to eliminate all forms of social gameplay just because it will be abused.

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He can play D4 too. As lead designer Joe Shelly confirmed “the most powerful items” aka the top tier of items aka legendary/mythic won’t be tradeable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZc-ZrW14pA&t=10m43s

Sorry trolly, but it looks like you are the one going back to D2.

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Just like D2? /20characters

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We should just have open trading.

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Go back to D2? Why would I start playing a game I haven’t played for over a decade just because I decide not to buy D4?

No, what happens is that if I don’t buy D4 then the franchise is dead to me and I continue my philosophy of only buying games if they are good.

You’re the one still playing Diablo 3. You’re going to buy Diablo 4 no matter what. It’s people like me who stopped playing their games they need to win back.

Btw, the dev never said legendary items are not tradable. He just said the top tier, aka mythic are not tradable. He also said the system is not decided on, and they want player feedback. That’s tough luck for you, because Blizzard is trying to win back fans who left because of D3. They keep headlining trading, because they realise that people want it back. Many want to see trading back and will not be satisfied if there is no meaningful end game trading.

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Top tier means your endgame gear. If one plays infinitely long his endgame items are what is considered top tier in the game.

Mythic item takes only one slot. The rest are legendary. This renders both legendary and mythic items a top tier.

If one could equip all slots with mythics then the mythics would be the only top tier, but this is not the case.

Sorry to spoil your fantasy, but open trading is not coming to D4.

Yes, and knowledgeable aRPG people like me has spoken against open trading.

Only the trolls like you, the pro-traders, the whales and the casual people unaware of modern crafting systems want trading back. And while I can counter the trolls and the pro-traders, and explain the casual players what they miss, I can’t do nothing about the whales since they have higher priority than the competitive players like me.

So, the only thing I want is not a spoiled competition by the trading system favoring the whales who can buy from 3rd parties infinite gold/mats and use these by themselves or deliver them to shared clan stash.

#faircompetition
#noopentrading

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And that speaks about the quality of the game in what measure?
There are plenty of good games, including your beloved Diablo 2 that reside in the same section.
D3 is 8 years old. At some point they have to stop developing for it and start developing for Diablo 4 instead. I say that putting years of effort towards an expansion of an 8-year-old game is rather stupid.

Blizzard is known for cancelling projects before they are finished. D3 expansion didn’t make the cut - that’s all their is to it.

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You haven’t countered anyone or anything. Still being a delusional as ever.

You’re ignoring facts. People want to see trading back. Trading is an end game activity. Blizzard said that trading would be end game content. You can’t have trading as end game content if end game items are not tradable.

Blizzard are not set on the system and are taking feedback because they don’t want to upset fans again. There will be widespread rejection of Diablo 4 if trading is not fully integrated into end game.

Blizzard arn’t making Diablo 4 to win over the current Diablo 3 players. They’re trying to win over all of the players they lost because of Diablo 3.

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Yeah ROFL, like the D3 RMAH. Oh man you really deliver.

Seriously though, I tried to warn you (and others like you) not to get disappointed when you don’t see open trading in D4.

Open trading is not coming to Diablo 4, guys. Try to accept this and have fun later when Diablo 4 launches.

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I suppose you know more about D4 than the game director then. Since he said in a video a few days ago that trading and pvp, as well as events and harder and harder dungeons, all make up the content foundation to give people stuff to do long after they’ve completed the game. Sounds like trading is relevant to endgame to me.

“So whether it’s doing pvp, or engaging in trading in social hubs, or doing events, or pushing harder and harder dungeons, I think there’s gonna be stuff to do for a long time. We realise this is the type of game where players don’t just play through once, finish the story and put it on the shelf. I mean some folks do and that’s totally cool and we’ll have an awesome kick a** dark story for them. But for the players that want to keep playing, having this foundation really allows us to deliver on that”.

Diablo IV Game Director Luis Barriga

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I already commented this, but you seem to missed it:

Trading in D4 is all about the whales.

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Skelos you say a lot of dumb things and rationalize them with even dumber logic. Finding loot and trading it is a huge part of dungeon crawlers.

Trading and having an economy in a dungeon crawler is important to most of the participants in the genre. It also keeps people interested in the game and coming back each season. A fresh start and being the first to find those rare items and make a profit…

Your anti-trade mentality makes no sense. The only thing I can gather what your problem with the idea is that you are lazy and are afraid of other people out performing you by working the market… You just want to mindlessly play your own game and disconnect the social aspects of the game…

Play your own game and don’t crap on the rest of us? Seems to me you just want single player mode anyways.

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That’s because you aren’t smart enough to understand it.

I already explained multiple times to casual players like you that an advanced AI crafting system could serve for replacement of that trading economy.

Only social aspect trading leads to is trolling. I had more than 1k deals during the PoE league I played and never got a single friend from these. But you know how many people flamed me during trading, because they were trolling noobs - more than 10. This is what trading is in a nutshell.

Trading as explained by Barriga as a social activity stands just to attract more casual players to buy the game. But no one will give these open trading.

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It seems like huge regress with such a experience to play diablo 3 at current state. It’s mobile clicker nothing more, every serious competetive player left it long time ago, there is nothing exciting about it. Chasing imaginary numbers is not a good game. Could you explain, please what do we miss when the trade is not restricted ? I can tell you right now that i miss diablo 3 so much, that i would want to never see it again.

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This is exactly what I was thinking earlier. It seems that Skelos actually just wants to or should stick to single player. He wants to strip away the best features of multiplayer and turn the game essentially into a single player game.

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