I do this in t16 with Shadow Impale (Seethe / Gunes)

So the normal Shadow Impale build has issues in t16, because everything gets one shot, it can’t keep up hatred. Hatred is restored after the 2nd hit and on.

My solution is to equip Visage of Gunes in the cube, and change the Vengeance Rune to Seethe. Visage of Gunes grants the Dark Heart rune of Vengeance. This way you get toughness and hatred regen.

This is a switch from normally using Dark Heart rune with Aquila in cube.

Hope that helps, y’all! I hope to see a lot of S6 Demon Hunters carrying groups the first weekend of season 21!

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yeah :slight_smile: kinda hyped for impale too.

And especially the switch over to GoD. I still hope for a little buff

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When I used to run with impale I would simply remove all gems change passives for some that doesn’t add dmg and even would remove paragon from dex if needed.

I don’t see the point of using Shadow Impale for T16 content, especially in Rifts. UE Multishot just does the job better…Killing literally 99% of everything on the map. Shadow Impale you’re likely just looking for elites to kill, for what? Everything has a change to drop items. Personally I like to collect white and blue items to salvage into crafting mats.

Arguably, GoD6 would be better as well in the upcoming season for T16 content. But i don’t know if GoD6 would be better than UE MS. UE does the job well already, so I won’t see a point in changing up tactics for something that’s sufficient and also considered one of the top tier speed farming builds already.

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@Mersinary It’s to help t16 before building into GoD 6. Shadow 6 is the Haedrig’s Gift in Season 21.

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fixed (UE Multishot won’t be that good relatively).

GoD 6 is better for T16 than UE MS. The new set pretty much does everything better than any of the other builds/sets atm. With that said, there’s very little to no reason to make a UE set unless you just like MS, but early in the season, every bit of mats/souls/shards matter and would be best saved for the new set or impale if you wanna go that route.

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While I think Multishot clears a T16 screen faster (from a fixed position), the massive 160% movement speed granted by the 4-piece GoD set makes Strafe the clear winner for speed runs.

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Personally I am currently enjoying a rapid fire LOD build with grenades. Still building gem level (I only play solo) but rapidly climbing. As for speed running the only slowdown would be if I change to use stone gauntlets for more armor

I couldn’t imagine worse setup than LOD rapid fire with greanades for fast T16 keyruns.

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I can, try Spike Traps lol

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Whenever I try UE MS I run out of hatred and die

I have played the shadow build from day 1. I never run out Hatred because I use the left click on the mouse. Most people that use the right click do run out of hatred. I have ask this many time when I see somebody using the right click.

I have seen lately that people that are using Shadow or Unhallowed builds. They really have no clue on what they are doing. I’ll say something to help them out. The first thing out of their mouths is I’m going by the Icy Veins. OKAY

I say that is nice site, but you still don’t have your build set to the right way. Then you hear nothing from them and you try to help and about 80% don’t listen.

Plus to the OP at that Icy Veins site they show Impale is on the Left Click too. You have yours on the Right Click!!!

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It literally makes no difference which mouse button it’s on.

The issue is that at T16, once your gear’s vaguely okay, mobs die in one hit by being impaled. That means you don’t get any hatred regeneration from Karlei’s Point because no mobs gets re-impaled, because they’re already dead. So, you either need to swap some cube gear around to regen hatred, reduce resource costs, both or use a different build entirely.

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Sorry but I don’t have that problem and say it does matter. Because I have try both ways. I do lose hatred on the right click and yes you do lose a little on the left too, but nothing like the right click.

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It all depends on play style, so each person’s is different. So you can not make a general statement that right or left click is better unless you know the persons playing style.

Well after pieces augmented add to that hot pursuit and tactical advantage + Warzechian bracers and you basically found the formula for The Flash :wink: LOL

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I never have hatred problems either with Shadow Impale in T16 - I have issues on lower torments yes, but not T16 (I also have the impale skill on left click, but I am not sure that’s the reason). Anyway as many have stated, UE Multishot is definitely better for farming T16. I am very much looking forward to trying the final version of GOD (was working great in PTR indeed, and according to the devs it should not change much).

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There’s absolutely no difference with mapping impale to a particular button or key. It works exactly the same mechanically. Comfort level and variances of rift/mob type will play a bigger factor in terms of execution and RNG.

As for next season, if ones intent is to gear up for GoD6, all you really need is S2. That bonus is enough to get you up in the torments and farm for a GoD6 and it’s flexible. A duffel dropped? Then use bolas. Sword of ill will dropped? Use chakram, and so on.

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Diffidently, there is a problem when you don’t have the mob density that you can’t maintain your hatred. Shadow gets better at high GR’s, its inefficient doing bounties/T16. Yeah the GoD build will be the alternative to UE DH for a lot of the usual things if nicely kitted.