For Fs sake the LFG channel in season is full with: Looking for GoD/ZDH Speedruns GR xxx
OMFGx2 I never wrote anything about season here.
You still did not answer why you are against Iria’s proposal.
Yeah, but before this whole BS started i even told you you can play with us on NS.
And what do you think will happen after season? With season being 99,5% DH?
Do you really think there will be no DH-Grps after season?
The thing is you present it like DH is in such a bad state that its like impossible to find ANY good grp, when its clearly not.
“You still did not answer why you are against Iria’s proposal.” This is, again just your inability to read, or to take the time to read, or to read things like they were written without putting some evil intentions into them
And you know both of us asked for buff to Impale for this patch. Community was almost united with this request. They did not listen. I said that the buff to offhand will not be enough and it is not enough.
If things don’t change DH will be out of META in non season. How do I know? Because in non season we can already use same exact builds you can use in season and non of this DH builds is part of META in non season. You should know that much without me explaining it to you.
Yes , but there is one variable you forgot. Thousands of GoD-DH Chars ZDHs getting transfered to Non-Season.
Now you could assume that ALL of those People just start a new char in the new season, or you could make the assumptions that a few of those keep playing DH and there will be more Groups containing DHs than there are now…
You forget that people mostly play season only or non season only. If one has the DH in non season it does not mean anything if he is playing season only anyway. Also why would he play with DH if he can play with Necro and do +4-5 GRs at faster pace?
Ok so you made the first assumption , and still dont take your time to read. Not much has changed
“Also why would he play with DH if he can play with Necro and do +4-5 GRs at faster pace?”
Because he is maybe used to DH, has more Fun with it, likes the playstyle more? Lots of reasons.
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There is a type of player that wants to know they are playing the best build, not waste time with 2nd rate stuff, or spending exorbitant time learning how to improve their char, refarm gear because they rolled it wrong, get frustrated when missing a small detail etc. – they make up a large percentage of the base.
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"I am not one of this guys but if huge percentage of players base is you really don’t have a choice.
I also do understand this kind of people. It is about how game was designed. When you have all but that one thing you try to farm for that one thing as efficient as you can. In non season that is usually only Paragons."
But…i thought you are not one of those persons? now i am confused
Man I did read. We gave it a try in non season. People geared for DH and when they saw it is not fast enough they just dropped it and returned to rat runs.
In season you don’t really have time to gear from scratch, after you made a mistake. It costs you a lot.
That’s absolutely what is going to be nerfed. They will cap Devouring Arrow. I think your best bet is to figure out what multiplier the 6 piece would need, assuming a reasonable cap. And a reasonable cap is like 70% per peirce, maximum 210%.
To be clear, you’ll still pierce every monster, you’ll just stop scaling DA to ridiculous multipliers.
I believe it’ll improve you’re single target, too.
Oof.
You’re a masochist 
I agree with you, but PeeWee is single-minded in his approach. If DH doesn’t have a guaranteed spot in group metas, there’s something wrong. Just an FYI in case you have any illusions about him changing his mind.
The devs have never done this. They don’t care about group metas. Controlling them is a waste of time and resources. If you want to play in a meta group, play a different class, then use those gains to empower your DH for solo.
If you live to play multiplayer, if that’s your one and only jam and you insist on a perfectly balanced group game where 7 classes can all equally vie for the different roles, well, this game has, and always had, bad news for you . . . .
So, a couple of points related to this.
Any kind of balance or nerf, even just a simple numbers increase to existing items and affixes, has to go through the same in-house testing validation channels as, say, a completely new item with a completely new affix. This is standard for the D3 development cycle, or was as of a year ago when I was discussing Barb buffs with Nev. There have been instances, mostly only known in-house, when simple numbers buffs resulted in a radical destabilization of other game properties. The result is that Blizzard has an incredibly strict pipeline for implementing changes to any game environment or object. Again, could be dated information, but likely still relevant.
It’s also worth noting that total and complete balance has never been a concern for the D3 development team, and they’ve said as much in the past. They’re fine with some builds being relegated to “good for speeds,” and others being “good for pushes.”
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If DH does not ever get guaranteed spot in group metas like other classes did there is something absolutely wrong. It would not be so wrong if whole game was not group oriented and designed in a way that is almost forcing you to play in group if you want to be efficient at all.
Yes I know. They are bad at their job. One of the main game design ideas behind Diablo 4 is “rotate META from time to time” guess why?
Yes. They did really bad job with this game. I can argue that Vanilla D3 was better than what we have now.
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If DH does not ever get guaranteed spot in group metas like other classes did there is something absolutely wrong. 7 - classes → 4 man groups
I think you should keep on insulting Blizzard-Staff while at the same time complain about that they dont listen to you. This seems like a good strategy to me
So what? Get someone else out of meta. For example Monk and Barb. They are part of META for 6 years now.
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post like this are the reasons why I never fully main any classes its like you guy are a bunch of kids that don’t know what they want. Lets be real here DH wasnt in no meta as dps since 2015. wizards barbs monks have 6 to 8+ years of meta inclusion
DH always was and still kinda more of a solo class you guys cried and bich about not being meta now blizzard gives you that chance to be in meta and you guys talking about nerfing the class back down SMH.
FOH!!!
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Well actually its more of a hidden buff xD
Nobody in here wants dh to be nerfed from its current state i guess
I agree but to be more precise. DH was last to get patch and it is still out of META after “DH patch”.
It should be nerfed for solo (only GoD build) and buffed for group play.
There was a buff for group play: It is called ZDH
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Well I’m going to chime in on the barb being brought into the Frey…I as well as 90% of barb players dislike and don’t play “meta” barb…take it away and I could care less. I hate zbarb and never have had the urge to play it. After building it and playing it a few times with clan mates this season …it’s put back into the closet to sit there for ever.
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