If you allow trading, you will have 3rd party item sellers. Many of them are botting to get the items to sell.
So you remove trading, and these guys can’t sell items 3rd party any more. These guys won’t even buy accounts any more. Which reduces number of boxes sold, reduces income for blizzard. How many of D3’s high box sales do you think were attributed to the real money auction house craze, with people botting multiple accounts for rmah profit.
Here’s my main argument.
If you disallow trading, the players who would normally buy their advantage from 3rd party sites, can’t do that any more. But what if this shifts the problem of botting from the rmters to the players? Do these players now buy a bot instead, and just bot themselves. They’re still paying for the same advantage but the middleman rmt guy is cut out. The farmer types don’t even buy the game and the it is the player who bots instead.
My case: There is no gain from disallowing trading. It just shifts the problem of botting from the rmter’s to the players. Blizzard loses out on huge numbers of box sales because 3rd party farmers won’t have any reason to buy the game and the problem of botting is simply shifted from the farmer to the players who will still find a way to buy their advantage - ie paying to bot instead of paying farmers to bot items for them.
If i’m right about this all, and Blizzard goes the no trade route for D4, I believe that for multiple reasons, they are going to be feel very let down about how well D4 sells. Botting farmers no doubt makes up a significant number of box sales. Hate them or not, they still buy the game and probably many copies of it too. No trading means these guys won’t buy the game = many accounts lost.
On top of that, and I’m not going to guess percentages, but let’s just say a lot of players want trading, want an economy. To a lot of people it’s a core part of the game. If Blizzard loses these players to upcoming competitor titles such as the League of Legends take on a Diablo game, I can see Diablo 4 receiving a lot less box sales than Diablo 3 - it would be practically certain.
I’m not repeating anything. This is something that I realised after seeing the mega thread complaining about rampant botting in Diablo 3.
It makes sense that people willing to buy items for real money, against the rules, with that option removed, may decide to pay for a bot instead so that they can still buy their advantage.
Don’t you have anything better to do than spam lame threads about the exact same thing?
D3 DOES have trading, it’s called “2 hour trade window with everyone in your game at the time the item dropped”. And D4 will be just fine with that same version of trading system.
Thats not trading. Thats just the ability of people to pick up the garbage you have thrown on the floor.
Have you EVER traded with someone you just did a GR or bounty in a 4 man group? Of course not.
D3 has no trading, no AH.
Just BOTS by the barrelfull.
No you cant buy items anymore on the AH.
You just buy the whole account with complete primals at Paragon 7000. Provided by botters.
So, removing auction house prevent bots? No.
Trading is pointless these days, you can easily get items just by playing, why would anybody pay for items to play when they can easily enough get those items.
I would never buy anything from a seller because I would rather invest a little bit of my own time to farm for the items because the game then becomes boring because there is nothing to do but kill stuff and salvage!
When RMAH was around I never purchased anything with real money. I was content to play.
That said. There has to be some ULTRA rare items that drop so infrequent that it makes playing more fun too.
You mention a lot that Blizzard is losing profit because botters will no longer be able to sell their items…
You do think that Blizzard wants to be know as supporters of bot for their own profit?
I can summarize your post like this:
Allow Bots to sell items.
Botters will profit.
Players who buy from botters will profit.
Blizzard will profit.
Fu** players who do follow the rules and don’t buy items from botters.
The problem is there’s no text box so you can explain further like there was in the old forum. Simply labelling something as “spam” without context is wasting a flag.
@OP are you a 3rd site item selling?
Crying like that make me think so.
In fact, I think most if not all of the topic crying about not having trade are from 3rd site.
Get out of this game, please? Don’t ruin it, please?
There are multiple game with trading and selling items around, spare us our Diablo please?
That means “stop somewhere already”, no matter how you perceive or willing to take it. That thread was one of the most pointless drivel I’ve read in these forums.
The key is to ban the bots instead of letting then run wild with 24/7 botting like they did in D3 vanilla. And still do now apparently.
All removing trading has done is made the game boring for many. While credit card warriors can still get their advantage by paying for a bot instead of paying for items from someone else.
Botting is rampant in D3. Nothing is solved.
No.
How about this. You’ve got your game, it’s called Diablo 3. True Diablo fans want an experience more similar to D2. So you can stick to this game, which you claim you like. Or you could play Diablo 4 anyway, even if it has trading, and I bet you will.
Let true Diablo fans finally have the game they’ve been asking for. Diablo 4 should be nothing like D3, and a lot more like D2.