[Guide] Zodiac Rend (Season 20)

Season update:

114 down in 10 and a bit minutes. WW6, with mantle in the cube, maps weren’t great, got Hammerlin(?), at about 50% I spawned the cyclones, and the boss seemed to think they were health springs and walked into pretty much every one of them, he dropped from half to dead in a few seconds.

Thought I’d jump straight into 115, cleared it in 9.27. First two floors were sewers, but third floor was woods, managed to get power and conduit pylon almost at the same time and rage flipped a massive group together, which just crushed the progression bar.

At this point I’m almost beginning to agree that rage flip is nearly as strong as the rend buffs :joy::joy::joy:

You look like you have the CDR for it, try Stone Gauntlets in the cube over MoC.

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One thing with the build im struggling with is if i should be hard casting rend or not? Like i dont have any area damage apart from paragon.

I did run a few with gauntlets in cube, ironically since I am getting more used to Rage Flip, I find dying less of a problem.

Maybe due to more mobs around for more StP healing.

At your Paragon, use Stone Gauntlets in the Cube.

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So true. I would go out of my way to avoid killing trashes even when there are quiet a few until I find a pack or 2.

This is also the reason I think Stone Gauntlets is better over MoC.

Is it because my paragon is low enough for them, or high enough for them?

Low, we get armor value from Paragon (in STR) so later on the damage becomes important. Right now it’s staying alive long enough to do the damage we can.

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Cool, I will give them more of a run.

Make sure to use Rage Flip to pull all the packs together, the more the better. Once the first killstreaks kicked in, the next few killstreaks will also get triggered. Everything will melt :slight_smile:

Yes, have been learning to use it

to demonstrations how OP the seasonal buff is, here is the video of streamer Eggman clear 150 with zbarb (with some trick of course)
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/519475085

This is so clearly not intended… I just can’t with the lack of planning and testing the devs did for this season.

Geez, using that “trick” to get the 150 is so ridiculous (to say the least)…

I want debate on use vs not use of spear.

2 situations are clear:

  • BoM variant -> use spear
  • WW5 + CC + CoE with enough defense -> use spear

But situation in between is not clear:
I am practising using spear with WW6 + Bom variant. I’m doing quite well. Still I don’t have enough defense to use WW5 + CC + CoE with spear, I have to use WC Veteran’s (with it I can play without LPH roll only with Ploughshares or Blood Funnel depend on weanon variant, without WC one LPH roll on weapon - it wan’t save it).

WW5 + CC + CoE is 30% more dmg over WW6 + CoE.

Spear have to replace (or exceed) that 30% dmg. In my case I am now +1GR without spear with WW5 + CC + CoE and with a bit worse rifts too.

You need to kill about 5 elites more with spear to compensate lower dmg and it seems it too much.

I can imagine only one situation where spear will be better. Super good map with super density and 5+ elites, but on top of that with conduit (with FoT - I have not good FoT yet).

Of course in the end I will have more defense and I will use WW5 + CC + CoE with spear.
Now I am on GR129 (actually with IB, but with Ambo’s + Doom I am on GR128 without trying GR129 - it is very close) without spear and not perfect rift, even without conduit and without power pylon. I can go a bit higher with fishing, but now I am working on gear/paragon to boost defense and practising with spear.

Another way is to get more density and more damage from AD procs.

Yes, but I don’t want to go AD route (I know that it has higher potencial). I don’t like playstyle with hard cast rends.

Hai.

I would like to get ‘clarification’ on something.

So someone asked ingame what to roll on his BK sword and I suggested to roll off att speed since Rend does not benefit from it based on this guide.

Then someone called BS on me saying that att speed=sheet dps and sheet dps is more Rend dmg.
Pointed this guide to him since it says Att speed does nothing to Rend and should not be stacked since sheet CHC+CHD is the multiplier.

I’m fairly sure he was wrong I just want to be 100% sure when I suggest ppl stuff.

Gatto:

You are correct. Attack speed does not have any effect on Rend damage.

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@Free I don’t know when the most recent updates were done. You update so often (which is amazing) that I’m not always aware. I think the OP now accurately reflects everything we know about the season buff, other than specific discussion of when to reset stacks, and anyone playing season can find everything they need. Thanks!

For those interested in using the season buff, Rax has a good discussion of it in his 138 clear on youtube, particularly about the decision around when/if to let the buff fall off in order to benefit from the 50/100/150 procs again.