In your opinion, is it worth getting a gold farming set and farming the gold to spam GR enpower or just spam +4 GR’s for more efficiency? It gets really expensive. What is your strategy?
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I would also like to know this. Or rather what the difference is between the standard Goldwrap, Avarice and Boon of the Hoarder setup on the follower and some super optimized gold build?
I go for that one and just accept that at some point I don’t empower any more. You get quite a bit from just the follower one and I am fine with that, for now.
I’m also wondering if there is a HUGE difference between a full gold setup as in all item slots with + gold find % secondary roll -VS- just a set with the boon gem/goldwrap.
Personally I don’t empower, I don’t need to have them at as high a level as I can get them from the start and I will play enough to get every gem to that level eventually anyway. When we had to level gems from scratch for caldesanns I did empower, not really a need for that as they start out at 125 nowadays.
Empowering is not for high level gems. Empowering is to get your low level gems up faster so you don’t need to run so many rifts to level them up. Once they start getting up high you just drop the empower.
In the part you quoted I literally say I don’t need to level them fast and I will play enough to level them anyway.
I guess that is my question. Leveling low level gems in GR90 is expensive but if I were to lower the GR and save gold I’m losing experience. Opportunity cost.
Is it worth empowering my “XP” GR to level low level gems if it means I will need to farm gold in rifts/bounties or is it better to just +4 the gems if I’m doing my XP GR’s which is usually ~GR90.
Gold setup might not cost you anything extra. T16 requires so low amount of dmg that many builds do it equally fast with gold rolls. Some people empower also most of their 150 runs because they’ve got enough gold.
When considering Boon of the Hoarder and Avarice band, one should remember they together provide also bonus speed when gold is picked. The only problem is the crazy speed - many builds now run so fast that gold doesn’t even have time to drop inside the max picking distance.
I have stopped empowering all runs after the petrified screams were introduced, now I empower only occasionally when I really need some upgrades fast. Last season I got >100 extra lvl 150 gems to my non-season stash and don’t know what to do with them anymore.
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Well it is good for that time when you are getting lower and lower upgrade chance as well. I empower less at 100% now than I used to since you only need like 3 per build anyway (Yes, like 5 if you take T16 and speeds too).
More importantly running lower GRs will give fever drops (unless gr90s take too long). Getting the first six primals is important in unlocking the whole altar and then more primals for recipe 11.
I wouldn’t bother going max gold find for T16 rifts, but if you’re going to do some vault runs, you can go max GF there.
You should be able to hit 50-60k with a solid gold find setup, a bit higher in parties from the Strength in Numbers buff. You can go for even a bit more if you go zdps max GF setup (Blackthorne’s 3p has a bit of gold find) and get carried through vaults, but I like to still be able to kill stuff.
Here’s the build I use for T16 vaults on wizard. It’s LoD Frozen Orb, holding a Sun Keeper. It can easily 1-2 shot T16 Greed. You should be able to make similar LoD builds on most classes. Broken Crown + Sun Keeper/Devil’s Tongue + Goldskin + Squirt’s (technically Kymbo’s can get you a bit higher roll, but Squirt’s gets you most of the way there) + Leoric’s Crown w/ Emerald, gold find rolls on very piece.
Hits about 55k GF on T16 (solo):
But even if you don’t go LoD, anything where you can fit Sun Keeper/Devil’s Tongue + Goldskin + Squirt’s + Broken Crown is going to still be decent. Just make sure you save some set pieces with gold find rolls etc. you can swap in for vaults.
This is the answer ever since Echoing Nightmare was introduced.
Anything you do now outside Purple Dungeons is way too inefficient.
I empower early when it’s cheap and I’m leveling lower gems. At higher GR levels I dont bother unless I have a ton of gold to spare.
How much gold per vault and per neph rift with that much gold find?
I dunno about Nephalem Rifts, that’d be a horrible rift build because it’d be super slow without Aether Walker.
A regular T16 vault is ~700m gold and an ancient T16 vault is ~1.5b gold.
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I don’t use a gold find build because it’s extra work for gold gear that’s not needed.
I gear my follower with farming gear as soon as I can after I reach level 70. 2 Cains, 2 Sages, 1 RRoG, broken crown, avarice band and a level 50 Boon the hoarder (or the highest level I can go easily) on my speed build.
At this early stage (T6 - can’t do T10+ yet), I level my 3 build gems to at +14 empowered GRs to reduce the gold cost. By the time I can do speed 90s (under 2min), I have enough gold to run empowered GR90s for gem leveling for my other builds.
A level 50 boon of the hoarder and broken crown as soon as possible is the key. Because I have flawless royal gems on my gear usually before I can do GR90.
It’s relatively easy to gold farm just by incorporating boon of the hoarder into your t16 speed clear set, and there’s other items you can use as well like avarice band etc.
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I empower almost 100% of my speed rifts nowadays. I just set up Gold Skin and Kymbo’s Gold for Vaults and it brings billions itself.
On top of that Boon of the Hoarder and Avarice Band on T16