Could anyone discuss about Crowd Control effects proc’d by Followers and the different builds that would take a benefit or a loss by having it?
I have questions regarding the following items for instance:
Which builds would you guys recommend any of these items on the followers?
Thunderfury and Wyrdward are good for a Templar and can be used with almost any build.
In fact, Thunderfury is also good on Enchantress on account of it’s slowing ability and again, most builds are fine with that.
Cord of Sherma is also a good item on followers again for the slow, though the blind isn’t bad either. GoD for the DH is really good with that on their Enchantress to keep pulls from getting too large and hurting your damage in the long run.
Blind faith and Sultan aren’t so great because there’s better helm option by either completing a set like Sages or Cain’s or in the case of the Templar Leoric’s Crown, or even the Broken Crown when you’re starting out a season and need gems.
For speed runs, any build, all of the items are good.
For Pushing on all builds Thunderfury.
Blind can be bad for bosses if you want your boss to stay still and other reasons…
Blind makes bosses move, i lost top word records many times because of blind when i didnt know about it…
For pushing with builds that do not rely on CC to make damage you can take anything mostly.
Do not take CC ((only thunderfury is good)) on this builds:
all necros dont want random CC
Nothing else i think?
Unless you are playing some esoteric builds nobody else is playing
then
do not take CC follower on crusader AOV shotgun build
SLOW skill / Temportal Pulse / on enchantress does not add to monsters CC resistance/immunity so slow is always ok
Personally i use Enchantress with “all skills” for pushing necromancer because i just like it but it probably does affect my damage a little bit, when she is spamming that “Charm” spell, because Charm does make monsters INSTANTLY 80% cc resistant.
Now that i think about it, i think i will push top 5 rathma nonseason, thanks for reminding
Your followers really suck…
Templar with Auguild, same for your enchantress… And… Well. No words come to me.
We’re waiting! Or like some you won’t admit your mistakes?
And just to piss you off, I got a 143 with my WD (around 3K), while you only got a 146 with your Crusader and 1500 more paragons…
I don’t want any cc on my enchantress when pushing with typhon (dont care in speeds). Just makes pulling big groups more difficult, and the hydras easily proc trapped for me in damage cycle. In particular hate the echantress charm that you cant avoid with all-skills…
While with meteor, any cc is nice, as it makes it easier to kite, and you can go more glassy for +dps. And help with trapped on elites.
It’s Thunderfury… Anyway. That sword is good on both Templar and Enchantress; Templar tanks multiple targets for spreading the slow effect on tighter crowds and Enchantress has IaS% boost for making it more efficient against wide spread targets. Slow is widely used and you don’t have to worry about crowd control resistance.
Any build you can think of uses Bane of the Trapped and this little sword is top pick for increasing your effective reach for consistent damage output.
Similarly, Azurewrath can be a counterpart to that sword, but it’s hard crowd control. On speedfarm sceneries, it’s actually better than Thunderfury on Enchantress thanks to her IaS% boost. The IaS% boost of Enchantress allows her to put the target in an almost permanent freeze state with Azure and could be useful for some glasscannon builds.
Ideal when farming or speedfarming. Usually preferred on Scoundrel so he can blind the distant targets that are caught in the Night’s Veil. Templar would have Leoric’s Crown and Enchantress would have Cain’s while pushing. In case you are not using those two for pushes, then that helm can be equipped by either of them.
I have read that Wyrdward could be fun to use it with Thundergod’s Vigor on Follower. No idea if it synergizes when Enchantress equips Schaefer’s Hammer but I know Odyn’s Son, Fulminator and Thunderfury work with it. A mere 35% chance to proc 1.5 seconds of stun won’t really disrupt the crowd control resistance I believe but there are better options than that ring. While Oculus is a staple, Unity and RoRG would be better choice than Wyrdward.
It is a rare sight but, any build that utilize Ancient Parthan Defenders can use this Wyrdward combination on their Follower. However, builds that equip or Cube that bracer are very limited. On top of my head, I think Shadow DH and any Crusader build with Iron Skin- Charged Up would be using APD and can use the extra stun procs from that ring.
To add, bonus damage mitigation from APD also trigger from frozen targets around you. So, Shadow DH with Frostburn cubed and FoK- Bladed Armor can benefit from APD bracers.
Kind of worthless on pushes dare I say. Avoid if you have anything that inflicts crowd control. In case you are using a build reliant on any pull effect, then that small belt would be a huge detrimental issue. The chaos field lasts about four seconds and inflicts a 40% crowd control resistance upon targets, that’s same as a knockback or pull effect.
It could be good on Scoundrel at pushes to some degree, because he can overlap his Night’s Veil with chaos field. Redundant on other Followers since they have more consistent sources for slowing their targets.
Kind of okay, can be used on pushes without many issues. But, whichever build picks Enchantress usually work with really heavy crowd control and CC resistance could be impacted on a push due to that. I’d rather give her weapons with no crowd control such as Blackguard or Skorn.
Choice of Follower depend on the build and purpose. For a very generic task of farming at a bearable difficulty, any of those would work perfectly. On a push, crowd control immunity becomes very important.