Farming gods aren't happy with me

I’ve been aiming to finish the altar on the 3 platforms I have the game on. By far the worst farming experience has been getting an ancient puzzle ring on Xbox. The other 2 platforms I’m done with the altar except for getting a couple of primals to unlock the last potion power, but on Xbox I’m still stuck on “ancient puzzle + 50 bounty mats”

I’ve farmed and farmed and converted every shard to a ring and every rare ring into a leg and reforged every puzzle ring until I run out of mats and then farm again. For a few days now. I’m only able to farm GR85 quickly for now, but maybe soon I can get that up to 100. 90s are slow for me.

Today I finally got an upgrade from reforging a puzzle ring - to a primal!?!? (Bangs head on wall)

So, I still need to salvage 3 primals to unlock the last potion ability (which will also help unlock the double-primals eventually), but I also can’t progress through the regular altar nodes unless I use this primal puzzle ring. Grrrr!

My instinct is to salvage as my run of bad luck should not make me desperate enough to sacrifice a primal for a non-potion node on the altar tree.

I’ll probably keep it for a little bit while I continue farming mats and doing more upgrade attempts and only sacrifice it if I get desperate. Salvaging it doesn’t do much right now anyway until I find 2 more primals to salvage for the last potion power.

Mostly whining, but is my assessment of the outcomes in line with RNG realities?

I made an ancient puzzle ring with the recipe 11 and sacrificed it. I made some reforges of an ordinary puzzle ring at first but not getting an ancient one after a few tries I realised that I would have to get a lot of souls and bounty mats to continue down that road, therefore I used the primordial ashes I had been lucky enough to get to get it done quickly.

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I still need 3 sets of ashes to unlock the potion powers on that tree so I’m not nearly close enough to start spending them on upgrading a puzzle ring (ignoring the fact that I already have a primal puzzle ring which created my dilemma in the first place).

The thing is you don’t know what the game has in store for you, anything can happen. You may unexpectedly find a couple of ancient puzzle rings in the next rift, just as it’s very possible that you may not see one for a few days. If I were you I would salvage it for the primordial ashes, but that is just me and I have decent luck with ancient puzzle rings every season.

Just don’t do that. I know people claim that they get it that way but I’m certain that it’s just a bait for convincing people to burn away their materials.

By each class, there are 24 to 28 potential results for legendary rings you can get from Kanai’s Cube by upgrading rares; that means you only have 1/24 chance for it to be Puzzle Ring. Secondly you need it Ancient so it adds another 1/10 rarity to it. In cumulative you only have 1/240-1/280 (varies from 0.41%-0.35%) chance to get an Ancient Puzzle Ring by upgrading rare rings to random legendaries.
Do you realize the amount that you need to burn through 200-240+ attempts if you have averagely insignificant luck? That’s twelve thousand basic materials from each type and around six thousands of DBs.

That does not mean or any kind of implication that it’s guaranteed after 240 tries, I’m speaking about minimal average. This expectation may differ from class to class due some having quite a few class related rings at their arsenal.

Failure if you keep upgrading. Try reforging again, you just need to hit Greater Rifts at close to tier 90, fastest you can run and dump shards at gambling rings. All you need are Forgotten Souls and Blood Shards, stop wasting your basic materials and DBs for upgrades.

The recommendation against upgrades is useful. I’ll stop with that half (third?) of it for a while and see how it goes.

I made a primal no Biggie. Primals drop all season might as well get it done.

I would sacrifice the primal puzzle ring (in case I didn’t make it clear in my first answer).

I think I’m quite a bit more casual of a player than either of you are. I’m not yet to the point where I feel like primals drop like rain… :wink:

If all you want is complete the alter, nothing else, then bounties is probably the fastest way to get your ancient puzzle, provided you have the souls to use the bounty mats. One round of bounties is almost 9 rerolls, and with 1 in 10 being ancient, you have a good chance of getting one from a single run.

If you plan to continue playing afterwards and want to grow your character, get your solo GR150 etc, then running bounties for the ancient ring is kindof wasted time, and you’re better of just speeding GRs, the ancient puzzle will drop eventually.

I’d hold on to the primal, use it for the puzzle node or the primal nodes only when no longer needed for the other option. Ie, if you find ancient puzzle: salvage primal. If you unlock all potion nodes with other primals: sac primal at altar for puzzle node.

That’s ok. After farming for the last 2 weeks for not only Chiltara to get the Gibbering, I have been trying to get the plans from Izual and the Liquid Rainbow drop from the Mysterious chest from the Mysterious Cave.

I finally got that to spawn today, so the Rainbow is done. I’m not to where I need the staff for the altar yet, but soon. But I have time, the season isn’t going to end for a bit yet and I will get it all unlocked eventually.

Good luck.

That took me the longest about 30 tries. Season journey finished in 4 days, altar fully unlocked in 10 days.

They don’t drop like rain. The reason why people have lots of primals is either because they play a lot or they farm GRs very efficiently and fast, or both. You can focus on doing some fast GRs for now, at least GR100 and above, and eventually, the stuff that you are looking for will drop, and hopefully you will find some very good items for your build along the way, as well as paragons to be ready for high-end GRs and pushing.

I just reached the critical tipping point. I have 3 primals including the puzzle ring so I can either unlock the 3rd potion or the next node in the altar. I’m going to see what drops/forges next - an ancient puzzle or a 4th primal. Meanwhile my GoD is far from optimized so I have work to do anyway. I realized yesterday that I hadn’t even cubed Depth Diggers…

My primals have been an interesting set - 1xpuzzle ring, 1xFoT, 1xTraveler’s Pledge. Normally all useful in various ways, but headed straight to the salvage block to deal with the seasonal mechanisms. Also, now that the merc usually wears the FoT, it was less interesting to find a primal one.

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Good job. More will come soon if you continue to play.

Don’t salvage that just yet. It could be useful on many builds if it rolled with crit rating or elemental skill damage.
If Traveler’s Pledge is useless and can not be redeemed by rerolling its single affix, I’d just await one more primals and use primal Puzzle ring to unlock the next node within’ the third potion. Keep hitting Greater Rifts and Kadala.

I finally reforged to an ancient puzzle, so now I have that node unlocked and also all the potions and can start working on my 300 souls to get the next node.

I swear, well, I sweared a lot spending hours and hours of farming for that one ring. Grrr…

[Update…]

And the farming gods are starting to take pity. I decided to try a goblin run or two to start off my quest to get 300 souls and they threw me a rainbow goblin within the first 2 screenfuls of my first run and another towards the end of my second. That’s over 100 souls collected in under a half hour (though I probably could have done almost as well with some speed-90s, it was more satisfying this way, especially with seasonal pet scavengers…)

Still watching you with side-eye you RNG gods…

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