Echoing Nightmare - Molten Immunity?

General Discussion
1

There are two possibilities: in Echoing Nightmares, Molten explosions are not Fire, or immunity items have been disabled in the environment.

There has been some discussion back in March and May, but I couldn’t find any definitive answer or opinion.

As a hard-core player, I want to mitigate as much damage as possible in the Echoing Nightmare environment so that I can reap as much benefit as possible.

In the open world I can wear a Star of Azkaranth Amulet (Fire immunity), and stand in the middle of as many Molten explosions as I can find, and they do no damage. in the Echoing Nightmare, a single explosion procs my life saver. And I only get two of them.

This behavior has made me reluctant to test the Mara’s Kaleidoscope against what look like Poison meteors.

So my question is this: in Echoing Nightmares, are Molten explosions not Fire (and Poison meteors not Poison), or have immunity items been disabled in the environment?

2

I do believe those explosions are actually physical.

10 Likes
3

Explosions in EN cause physical damage.

Adjust Meteor and Fallen Lunatic Molten damage to be Physical.

https://us.diablo3.blizzard.com/en-us/blog/23785083/season-26-|-the-fall-of-the-nephalem-|-has-ended-4-4-2022

8 Likes
4

To add to what @Strix stated, you should probably be aware of:

  1. Adjusted the damage done by Exploding Lunatics and Meteors to be more deadly.

  1. Adjust Meteor and Fallen Lunatic Molten damage to be Physical.

I don’t believe there are items in the game that offer Physical Immunity. All you can do is get as much Physical Resistance as you can.

5

Rax has an informative video about doing the runs (he plays HC).
When I run them, softcore UE DH with Guardian set bonus, I use the Templar with a lot of CDR for his heal bonus just in case.

6

Wont’ the defensive gems negate some of the incoming damage? :gem: :gem: :gem:

7

post removed by author

1 Like
8

Thanks for all the info. :grinning:

I have been using a Gears of Dreadlands build (I only play DH) with about 3.2 billion Toughness buffed up, and both available lifesavers. I have not been killed in an EN, but close a couple times, when I lost track and went to about 129…lol.

But building that build requires a lot of Vitality Augmentation, and like everything, getting over 3B Toughness with enough damage to get to 126 is a stair step. I was very disconcerted to see that immunity doesn’t work, but they probably made that decision when they pulled the Shield pylon.

I have not tried a Marauder, but that actually sounds kind of fun… :grinning:

9

Absolute trash of a game when i come back, run this trash dungeon, and die even though i should be immune because some idiot creator thought itd be a good idea to make an attack thats always been fire, not fire, for no apparent reason. I love losing all my progress to actual stupidity.

1 Like
10

Necro aside…

Well yeah, when players learned that nightmares could be cheesed by using 100% immunity, of course it was changed.

A few points:

  • So, first and foremost, it wasn’t changed for no reason
  • It was changed along time ago, this isn’t new
  • Sounds like it was HC, yes, HC players have to be smart in ENs. Examples: hit 126, run away and let it end, use double cheat death, use templar with maximum CR for his healing, etc, etc.
4 Likes
11

I SECOND THAT A ZILLION TIMES!!! Especially as a Barb or Monk using PoJ set. Once I get my 125, unless I am confident I will not die, I run the outer edge until I get ‘overwhelmed’ and the EN ends. Rarely does it keep continuing as I am running in circles. Those time in HC, I get a bit frustrated, especially when both my cheats pop. But, at least it doesn’t happen too often.

HC: I wait till I can faceroll a GR 100 in 2-3 minutes before attempting to get 125+ on an EN… UNLESS I am really desperate to continue the altar, then I go crazy and hope for the best.