Will DX 12 or Vulkan be added, Mainly Vulkan for AMD users cause this stuttering and stuff is crazy. Vulkan would be awesome to add then your game could be on Linux and Windows and would help run better on AMD RX 5600 XT cards or DX 12 Ultimate would be nice.
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my understanding is that Vulkan is just an alternative to OpenGL that D3 does not use. DX12 again, is an alternative to DX11 with newer features, none of which will help with the main game thread being a single thread.
if you want better game performance, choose CPUs that offer better single thread performance. IE Intel CPUs. there is a reason they are the best overall for gaming.
AMD is great for saving a buck and work, its still a bit behind for PC gaming.
The 3000 serie Ryzens have solid single thread performance, 3300X is comparable to a 7700K or so and its not that expensive.
Tho my slowly aging 1600x is doing alright in D3, not getting any serious drops. âwell its enough to play HCâ
That being said this is a common Blizzard game issue, SC 2 had/has it and so did WoW until they started to relase performance updates/CPU related updates sometime ago. âfrom what I read at least, I donât play the gameâ
I just hope that D4âs engine wonât be this dated in this regard and it will finally use our hardware properly.
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um⊠no. in single thread, the 7700k out performs the ryzen 9 3950x in many cases.
AMD has great overall performance. but for single thread, Intel remains in the lead.
Idk where did you get that but thats just wrong:
[https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-3-3100-and-3300x-review,9.html]
Or check a review on Gamers Nexus, he knows what hes doing.
Sure Intel is still slightly ahead but at this point the AMD is not good for gaming saying just needs to die cause its not true anymore at all.
You could throw a 3100 at D3 and it will have no issues with the game and thats a ~100$ CPU.
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that wasnt his statement. sure they are good enough for gaming. but single thread, amd is not winning.
Well but a 7700k will never outperform a 3950x,not even overclocked.
It has issues keeping up with the 3300x.
Not winning but its damn close enough I would say, for the price especially.
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Vulkan is actually the successor to OpenGL. Itâs designed to work directly with hardware (low level) whereas OpenGL is designed as an abstract (high level) API. One advantage Vulkan has over DX12 is that it has support for exclusive fullscreen mode, which prevents the app or game from losing focus if something happens in the background such as a notification.
are you a complete fanboy troll? the 3300 is aimed at the i3 series for performance. it does not come close to the 7700k except in multi-threaded benchmarks that are normally âworkâ centric, not gaming.
Nope I just donât like it when ppl throw around this âbuy only intel for gamingâ thing which you did in your fist post here.
I used to own both Intel and AMD CPUS so nope not a fanboy.
Also, do check a proper review or more than 1 and see how close the 3300 X is to a 7700k.
Yes it was originally aimed at the 10000 series i 3 but it just perfmors a wee bit better which is never a bad thing. âcheaper tooâ
Here let me do it for you:
https://youtu.be/NM2fFpzPKPg
You would need a 5.1GHz OC on the 7700k to comfortably beat the 3300x in ~every game.
Again, this is a 120$+ CPU so if anything its one of the best go to budget CPUs currently and thats not a fanboy saying but what most reviewers also say.
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the 7700k can easily beat the 3300x when overclocked, and not even to 5+ghz.
nevermind that you are comparing a 4 year old CPU to a new release.
Its not my problem that you refuse to check in depth/proper reviews and instead call me whatever, but hey thats nothing new here so Iâm used to it. 
The reason why Iâm mentioning the 7700K cause its what most tech sites also did and you know why?
Cause the 3100-3300 is the new budget/entry level CPU in the 3000 serie with 4cores-8 threads just like the 7700k which used to be a ~500$ flagship CPU so ppl were interested how it holds up in a core vs core situation.
Bottom line is, no the OP does not need Intel CPU only to play D3 or whatever game with no stutters. âbesides D3âs dated engine is what is, no hardware will fix the issues completelyâ
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again, you are comparing a 4 year old CPU that has been replaced 3 times to a new CPU and saying that you are barely better to the non-overclocked CPU thats intended to be overclocked⊠you are the one with the issue, not me.
apples to apples. the i3 10100 is a better CPU for gaming.
cpu userbenchmark com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-10100-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-3300X/4075vs4076
CPU userbenchmark really? 
No one who follows/interested in tech stuff takes that site seriously.
I would strongly suggest an actual review site than that thing.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i3-10100/
~2% better @1080p and costs more + memory speed limited in ~budget mobos unlike the Ryzen platform where you can easily go for 3200 and higher with a cheaper mobo.
Anyway Iâm done here, honestly I should completely avoid Hardware related topics on this forum but I guess I never learn.
Just always do research on proper/valid tech sites before suggesting anything hardware related to ppl. âmaybe then we wouldnât have so many outdated beliefs stillâ
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D3 is an old game running an ancient engine. I also keep getting d3d error pop ups at start up on my new rig. When the new games use new engine designed to run on multi threaded processors, then the power hungry high frequency cpus shouldnât matter so much.
3300X matches the 7700k in gaming and beats it quite handily in multi-threaded workloads:
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The 3300X is only able to match and beat the 7700k when itâs OCâd. An OCâd 7700k handily beats it. But thatâs what Intelâs flagship CPUs each generation are for - IPC. Of course AMDâs going to win on the multithreaded workloads. Intelâs been so focused on IPC that itâs now playing catch-up with Ryzen and Threadripper, and AMDâs EPYC CPUs are putting out more raw multithreaded power for a fraction of the price of the nearest equivalent Intel Xeon CPU.
Put that 3300X against the current gen though, and it will lose in IPC, but still prevail in multithreaded work. Problem is, very few games can make use of that many cores. A lot of developers donât want to move to DX12 because Microsoft has left out features they want for their users. Vulkan offers those, but that means coding for an API that they might not be familiar with yet.
PoE took that gamble and itâs paying dividends. Vulkan is so much smoother than DX11 and even DX12, and as a bonus, Vulkan exists in OS X as MoltenVK, which will help the PoE devs, as they are looking to make a Mac version of their game. PoE also happens to be one of the few games that might actually be better on AMD in the end if it can improve its multithreading engine properly. Sure wish WoW would go Vulkan. Then Iâd be able to play again since it would have access to exclusive fullscreen mode (needed for app focus lock, an essential feature for disabled players like myself).
But FWIW, I wouldnât crow about a current gen CPU barely being able to match a three generation old CPU. Thatâs like trying to say AMDâs Pro Vega II GPU being able to beat a Titan RTX, but failing to mention that AMDâs card uses two GPUs to do it. Neither comparison is apples to apples.
And AMDâs CPUs require some serious cooling when all cores are fired up. The top end Ryzen 3 and any of the Threadrippers require liquid cooling for guaranteed stability. But, I suppose thatâs the tradeoff as AMD hasnât figured out how to bring down those thermals yet. But at least the cost of the AIO liquid cooling setup is mitigated by the $250 youâll save vs. Intelâs equivalent.
did you watch the video or just link it? cause the overall results for game average show that the 7700k was 101/138fps vs the 3300x at 105/137 at 1080p
and they dont even bother to summerize the 1440p ratings where the 3300x mostly lost.
and again⊠4 year old CPU you are comparing here. i would hope in 3 generations, you could catch up.
you are posting on the D3 forums. performance should at least nod to the game you are talking about. D3 favors single thread, as do many games.
oh, and a side note, the 7700k was faster in the vulkan test as well. sad. Rainbow 6 siege the 7700k did 178/267 while the 3300x did 201/261
the 7700k was a beast in just 2017. itâs very impressive that amd has matched its performance with its lower end ryzen cpus. thatâs a very quick catch-up. look at the i7-2600k days and how long it took intelâs i3 lineup to catch up to it. we had to wait 5 generations for the i3-8100 to finally match a CPU from 2011. the ryzen 3 3100 is already handy to the 7700k in many games and workloads. we all win here. Ryzen 3 3100 vs Intel i7 7700K Benchmarks â 15 Tests UPDATED đ„ - YouTube