If you nerf the Tal Rasha Set you not only remove its viability for gr pushing. If you want to nerf this point fine but do it with the smoldering core and not with the set.
Because if you nerf the set you are also destroying the t90 speed tal rasha builds which were the best speed builds for the wizard. And these speed builds were not even that good to begin with. The monk, the demonhunter, the crusuador, the barbar, heck even the witchdoctor speed builds were already way better than the tal rasha wizard speed builds and you are nerfing these with the tal rasha nerf aswell. The same thing counts for the necro trag oul speed builds which are the worsts already.
The speed builds from the wizard and from the necro should be buffed instead of being nerfed which you do with nerfing the set effects.
Necro Autolancer got buffed like 9 tiers.
Tsl Rasha also overperformed in speeds but I agree, nerfing the legendary would be better than nerfing the set
I dont hate witch doctors. I would be happy to see them in the meta . I was just refering to the meme that wd are the worst class and overlooked class. I find it stupid aswell that they are nerfing it. In my opinion every class should be good or compareable at every content. I have not played the wd yet but if they are nerfing it again i have no intend to sadly.
Witch doctor is ugly. The Devs has defined the witch doctor as having a maximum of 145 GR for all gameplay, which is 5 GR lower than the standard for other roles. Every gameplay of the witch doctor is all weak, But the internal balance of the WD is indeed well，and I hope that all gameplay of the WD can be Buffed 2 GR on the basis of Patch 2.7.7
Did you know wizards existed before Tal Rasha revamp? Crazy I know, but we have speed builds like Typhons and Firebirds that do just as good if not better than current TR.
Probably a DMO speed too but who wants to really do that, the two words don’t mix well.
I am not saying I agree with the TR6 nerf, they should have nerfed Nilfur’s in half instead, I’m just saying with the current iteration there’s not really a point forcing speeds on a set that does such little bonus damage anymore.
To be fair, didn’t actually test it out and only done Typhon speeds. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s significantly better than in the past. Still it’s just never going to be seamless I guess is what I mean compared to other speed builds that are like one or no button y’know.
But I tend to agree players need to step out of their Tal Rasha bubble here, pun intended!
Not every haedrigs set is buffed by the patch. Sometimes nerfing a bd simply means get out and try other stuff be decreaing it’s popularity. Tal speed isn’t the only speed Wiz build and certainly not the only easiest /efficient wiz spd bd.
I have to disagree. I have played lots of typhoon zhis season and it has a big flaw for speed gr. And that is that you have to wait near your hydras until they have killed the mobs. You cant really push forward the. Same moment as you are killing mobs. Because if you to far away they dont do anything. In other speed builds from other classes you can push forward while dmging and killing mobs. So my conclusion this season was that speed tal was way better for speed gr. However typhoon was better to play in visions of emnitys as you loot while the hydras have time to kill and the mobs are often coming towards you.
Tldr speed builds where you cant push forward and kill at the same time are not so good for speed gr in my opinion.
Plot twist: typhon archon build is currently top 1 build in 4 man teams as trashkiller (if nothing changed past few hours), but that might be just coincidence and the rathma bosskiller could just soloed that rift, i have no idea really.
I never saw Tal Rasha as a speed build because it is too restrictive in requiring 4 elemental skills while not being the best teleport reset mechanic. Wizard has always been slower than other classes for lack of that method of speed increase.
The best speed build for wizard is definitely Firebirds Finery because it makes teleport constantly available, without cost, while being high damage.
This just seems like the original poster wants Tal Rasha over anything else, rather than the best speed build.
It is speed build, remember Tal rasha chain explosion build for normal rifts, and for nonseason meteor in GRs (in team play at least) we still can do GR 150 under 4 minutes with talrasha, ALL MAPS i mean, so how is that not speedy?
Tal does have speed GR 100+ speed version of the build but MAX TROLLS never actually played this game much, they are only pushing first 2 days in season and then quit while they are on top to keep their" legend" up… actually a lot of their guides are not even min-maxed, they write specifically to adress the noobs, there are only 2 or 3 minmaxed guides, about the game mechanics but no good build guides… i mean, look at 4 man team leaderboards… nobody even plays the exact max troll talrasha build… its been like that for many years already, they dont care about the game at all, it was just milking the content for donations money.
At NS i can solo 150 every single map under 10 minutes. So usually i dont even bother trying to find a team because its a waste of time, i would already do a couple of rifts before even getting a decent team. (not consisting of 3 noob “meta” build copy-paste and there he goes)
In season 28 (altar) we farmed in team play all GR 150 maps under 3 minutes.
Tal needs nerf (so its OK now in PTR, it can clear 150 anyway at low paragon so its fine), its been a very boring 2 years playing the same build only because nobody wants to take other characters to the team…
So much worse, players actually unlearned how to even play necromancer or other characters, because of braindead 1 button builds like talrasha and because of noob level build guides like max trolls. I mean, Tal has some learning curve to it but most human-bots refuse to learn anyway, it needs nerf to force them back to their man-cave