I really think it’s unwise to punish the community by not allowing open trade because sites selling items. Path of exile has shown open trade and in game trade posting works. Stopping open trade because sites will sell gold or items is foolish, especially because if you stop open trade there will be services where people will farm gold/items on your account anyway and they will find a way around any restrictions to benefit those who will pay them. Don’t punish the community by stopping open trade when there will be paid illicit services anyway to boost their characters/items. Path of exile having a integrated trading system has shown making trade effortless limits people buying items/currency far more than punishing the community because some bad apples that will find other methods to exploit the game for profit. You will not stop people paying for services and items in some manner completely by punishing the community, give us open trade to allow a thriving economy that rewards playing the game and fighting dangerous bosses for high end loot that can be traded.
There will be open trading… gosh. Just not every item i guess.
They haven’t committed to open trade, they have only started gold as a primary currency atm. Which is great but they are still talking about limits on trading.
And to be fair how many people are going to have more than 1 of the best item in game… real people at least that actually play the game themselves.
With D2:R being announced and working with the modern Battle.net servers, I’m guessing it will serve a ‘test bed’ to see how well open trading goes. Depending on how well or how poor things evolve on the botting/hacking/item selling side of things, they may later choose to tighten the reins on trading in D4.
Open trading would be great, but unfortunately cheating community can ruin it for everyone else.
I am also concerned for paying currency for a high end item then eventually replacing it and being unable to trade the item I replaced to get currency towards my next upgrade. Selling old items to buy your next piece of gear instead of having to vendor it like garbage or waste space in your stash would suck.
I have suggested that items traded and equipped shouldn’t be as good as items found and equipped. Especially if they have been used before trading. This will reward the people that have grinded long term for their gear. I don’t know if it will be possible. Not saying they should be worse than an item currently equipped when trade is complete.
Also keep in mind someone can pay to have someone play the game for them and farm gold and items anyway. Almost like a bot but a real person doing it. So the loss of open trading for people to exploit in other ways achieves nothing but punishment towards the community.
I’d prefer SF mode, but not SSF, as I love multiplayer. If they will restrict trading poorly, I’d like to migrate to SF realm with D3-like sharing.
A very good way to get an account banned. Blizzard regularly bans people for that in several of their games.
The argument that people will do something Blizz bans for anyway is not a good one.
There will be trading in D4. It will have restrictions. There will be some sort of a clan bank system. That is what we know right now.
Hard to prove someone is doing that unless they outright confessed to doing it. Even if you did what’s to stop someone from paying a higher level character to kill difficult content for them. There is so many ways around restrictions that are nearly undetectable. Keep in mind I am against people doing these kind of things but it’s very hard to stop and punishing the community by stopping open trade or restricting items to have limited trade potential only hurts legit players. Also someone could join a paid guild that gives them godly gear to get around that system. Making it irrelevant method to stop pay to win.
A carry by playing with someone else is fine. As long as there is no real money payment (that Blizzard can see).
Letting someone else play your account is not hard to track - unless that person is in your house on your computer.
Again, the fact that some people will evade rules does not mean rules should not exist.
it is punishing the community by having open trading, i love how people would RAGE their guts out if blizzard put up a store in game where you could buy gear or mats for gear with real money.
but going into a 3rd party site and throwing down $ for some neat item? no problem!
Vpn to the area you live like DC or Atlanta. How would you be able to tell? Would you ban someone for playing their account at a friends house? You cant tell if they VPN to an area nearby where they live.
Path of Exile has indeed shown how bad open trading is.
Lets not punish the D4 community by adding trading to the game.
Let people find their own gear.
Not playing the poe.trade tycoon.
Path having public stash tabs is the easiest and best trading system I’ve ever seen. Right click item set price done. How that’s bad I don’t know how lol.
It destroys the gameplay. The game becomes easy and meaningless when you just go shopping for items instead of playing the actual game.
It takes me 5 seconds to find the items lol it’s so fast and smooth I can play farm currency and buy the item super quick, it even gives you a auto whisper to speed up the process. So confused your saying the exact opposite of what it’s like lol. You search for what you want click whisper and get the item… how does that take you too much time lol?
Indeed, as said, it is terrible. The claim some people have, that trading is “social” is ludicrous when looking at the PoE trading experience
Huh, it doesn’t take too much time. Quite the opposite. As said, it is easy and meaningless. And should never be allowed.
It encourages playing the game by allowing you to farm currency and you can also find items that gives you incentives to farm and play more and more high end areas…