This isn’t World of Warcraft, make the character model smaller, zoom out and let us see what’s going on. I don’t want to play an action version of my WoW hero, I can already do that in WoW. The perspective of Diablo should be more like Diablo 1 and Diablo 2, not more like World of Warcraft or Diablo 3.
Please, not 50 lights of varying colors in the battlefield as well.
Is it a WoW raid or a random Diablo 3 encounter? Who knows, they look about the same!
The WoW default is a zoomed out view which can be increased even farther out so your char is as small, or smaller, than in Diablo 1, 2, or 3. While you CAN zoom to first person in WoW, nobody does that.
What even is this thread? You made a thread to complain about D4 based on a false premise.
I’ve played plenty of WoW, it’s never zoomed out like D1 or D2. WoW looks a lot like Diablo 3. Not sure what you’re talking about.
D3 looks more like WoW than D2. Care to refute that? Sure some of the environments are similar to D2 but the art is very much WoW. D4 looks like D3. Running through a dungeon with a group or raiding? It’s hard to distinguish if all the colorful lights and battlefield is WoW or D3.
What false premise? I see the pictures. Some MVP post that was, wow.
You bet I’m going to complain if D4 is going to be like D3. I’m not going to buy it if it’s not like D2. I certainly don’t want round 2 of D3, Diablo 3 is the greatest gaming letdown of all time. Literally mediocre like PoE, Torchlight, or Grim Dawn.
I don’t want another WoW action game that has no rpg or strategy elements. I don’t want the game to look like WoW, I want it to be Diablo/Diablo2; continue the series appropriately.
Edit: It’s so quiet, guess it’s hard to argue with me cause you’re wrong.
Edit: I did make a thread, this forum is boring anyways so you’re welcome. People want to actually talk about Diablo 3 bleh, how dull.
Uh PoE is more zoomed in than any ISO RPG out there.
Actually the models look a bit smaller to me than the D3 char model from a quick Google image search. Regardless though, what point are you trying to make? I don’t think Diablo should be PoE and I don’t find PoE to be as good as D2.
Because I don’t care for D3 you assume I must think PoE is great? haha. I explicitly stated Diablo and D2 as the appropriate perspective.
Pretty much every time people mention WoW in Diablo discussions that is the case.
There are plenty of things to dislike about D3 (and probably D4). But for some reason people always need to come up with weird external reasons.
It is WoWs fault! No, it is Jay Wilsons 9 year old daughters fault! Etc. Instead of just the game itself being the issue.
Seems to be a lot of that going around.
WoW fights are not very flashy at all imo. A lot of focus on readability in combat.
D3 fights are a messy light show.
I dont see much shared art design between WoW and D3 either. WoW is very cartoonish and exaggerated.
They all look fairly different from each other. But maybe closer to D2 than WoW yeah.
Combat is drastically different. Diablo 3 combat is fast, WoW combat is quite slow and deliberate.
I wish I could post a picture of Diablo 3 with all the lights, you guys are delusional.
First of all, have you seen D4 ?
Secondly, this has been posted 10 times already. The “look & feel not right” threads all over the place
Thirdly, the Camera zoom angle ?, seriously ? 
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Yes, you made a thread to fish for reactions. Concern trolling based off a false premise about camera distance. Make another claim that directly contradicted what shadout said. Trying to get him to argue with you by posting what he said to prove you wrong? You know what they call that. sTrollin.
Wow, I wish I could post pictures on this forum. That is a very interesting take on the art. I completely disagree.
I don’t know about the WoW combat, I’ve gathered big hordes to kill plenty of times on my WoW heroes. At least they have cool drops.
Ya, that D4 looks like Diablo 3 to me.
See how the monsters and hero are a bit smaller? You can see more of the map on your screen to see what’s coming, etc. That’s what I want, tone down the WoW scale and get it a bit smaller.
@MissCheetah - You are the troll here, not me. You both are wrong so I said that, any assumptions you’re making is at your own will inside your own mind.
WoW with the same scale as D3 and flashly lights. If it wasn’t an Orc or whatever it’d be D3.
I agree with you completely, but all that expensive purchased gear off jsp botters and the Sin is still complete garbage. lol
“a bit”, indeed. The difference isn’t that significant. I wouldn’t mind being able to zoom further out either.
I just dont understand why it so often has to be “drop the WoW zoom lvl”, instead of simply “drop the D3 zoom lvl”.
Honestly think that kind of feedback might make a bigger impact on Blizzard too - constantly going on about WoW, Jay Wilson etc. just seems like whining that Blizzard can easily dismiss.
You do that in D2 too. Much more so than WoW.
He is certainly zoomed quite far in. But then WoW gives you the option to zoom. Also making it hard to compare to D2/3.
As for flashy lights, other than the ground effect it didnt seem very flashy.
If your character generated such a small amount of light effects in D3, I would assume you were afk 
And then I look at the D2 video above, and there are a few ligth effects on both the character, and on every single enemy, plus plenty of attacks flying all over the place. Look at D2 3:30 min into that video. D3 certainly seems closer to D2 than to WoW there.
“a bit”, indeed. The difference isn’t that significant. I wouldn’t mind being able to zoom further out either.
A minor difference with a huge impact. The scale of D3 and D4 is wrong, it should be like D2. D3 scale is already done in WoW and Diablo 4 should go back to D2 scale. Why reinvent a legendary game? Why do everything over again to put out something that’s not as good.
With a poor scale it’s very likely to be Diablo 3 all over again. There won’t be curses or immunities with a scale like that.
Combat is drastically different. Diablo 3 combat is fast, WoW combat is quite slow and deliberate.
Was just making the point that sometimes WoW combat isn’t slow and you can feel like a D3 character out there rounding up big groups to kill. WoW is a substitute for D3 but not vice versa.
He is certainly zoomed quite far in. But then WoW gives you the option to zoom. Also making it hard to compare to D2/3.
Pretty much default zoom and scale, that’s pretty much what I think about when I think of WoW.
As for flashy lights, other than the ground effect it didnt seem very flashy.
If your character generated such a small amount of light effects in D3, I would assume you were afk
Every spell in WoW has lights, we can find more flashy areas if you wanted to. D3 is flashy too but in D2 the lights don’t seem over the top.
I hope they don’t cave in to the D3 fanboys and go for the dumbed down itemization and free unlimited respecs, sigh
Yes, you made a thread to fish for reactions. Concern trolling based off a false premise about camera distance. Make another claim that directly contradicted what shadout said. Trying to get him to argue with you by posting what he said to prove you wrong? You know what they call that. sTrollin.
Ok, the embedded Youtube video is posted. Sure seems like I’m making up the camera thing and it doesn’t exist, huh? D3 camera and perspective are EXACTLY like D2 lol. What a joke. You instantly dismiss the idea then accuse me of trolling. You’re trolling, D3 fanboy much.
Come onto my thread and obfuscate the truth and dismiss my suggestion based on untrue statements and then you accuse me of trolling. Hahahaha. Seriously, why are you an MVP? What did you do? You are the best at praising D3 in all of Bnet so Blizz dubbed you a trophy lol. Way to sell out. This kind of attitude will destroy Diablo again.
Your posts aren’t exceptionally good or helpful, they just troll and hate on anything that isn’t pro D3. Well I have different ideas for D4, I don’t want D3 2.0. I want to constructively talk about how to make D4 better unlike some posters who just want D3 back and that can’t understand how to make a good Diablo game. Just an inability to understand things like scale and perspective.
funny I like to see less diablo in my world of Warcraft so I can enjoy it again.
WoW’s combat is rather slow compared to the Diablo games because of the global cooldown. Even Diablo 2 characters can be throwing out attacks faster than that because the only limitation on most abilities in D2/3 is your attack/casting speed.
The raiding “light shows” also do focus on readability like Shadout mentioned, which is how raids manage to get 20 people to clear those things in the first place. You might be able to cherry pick a few hectic fights, but it would be just that: cherry picking.
Raids in WoW have always been highly scripted events, whereas fights in Diablo 3 are mobs with a bunch of spam abilities meant to be able to get thrown into any procedurally generated map.
I get that people think D3 is literally the worst thing ever but the reality is that most of the things that D3 and WoW have in common WoW took from Diablo, not the other way around.
Either that or they’re not all that similar to begin with and people just don’t really know what WoW is like.
Oh I’ve raided before, I did so consistently for about two years up until a couple years ago. That’s true that raid gameplay is nothing like Diablo 3 gameplay. For one, WoW raiding is a lot of fun with an enjoyable guild and it’s very social; that’s a far cry from D3 right there.
However, I can round up a bunch of mobs (any that aren’t in a raid or dungeon pretty much) and smash them Diablo 3 style for resources if I want to. Hence, WoW can be a D3 substitute but not vice versa.
The issue isn’t that the gameplay is similar however, it’s that Diablo 3 and 4 look more like WoW than they look like Diablo 2. In fact, I wish the gameplay were more similar to WoW than what we have currently. I dislike that there isn’t any character progression and that every character just uses 6 skills, reducing it to an action game where you can find boring gear upgrades. Wow has plenty more complexity with trees and unlimited skill choices. Also, raiding and dungeons take strategy. Just not very similar to D3 where you smash everything with the same 6 skills and never customize your character beyond what skills you pick.