Dev notes are confusing against rathma?

[Errtu-11158]

This is literally the same post I made a few days ago.

A Continued Necromancer Feedback

To refference the original topic: To continue that in light of the changes, this is a continuation, but more of a feedback for the changes from March 4th, 2021 to the PTR. I am going to be testing out the new changes, and see how other people have adapted to it as well. I will also be trying my best to keep this productive and on-topic. If you already have some ideas or general feedback, please post it here. This is not a complaint thread, so keep that in mind. -/-Edit-/- So after some int…

Which is a continuation of the original post.

Maybe we could keep the feedback for this particular set to one large thread?
Not because it is mine, but to just help concentrate efforts/communications to maybe get through to Blizzard?

@Tebo-1453

I mean, initially they kind of accomplished that goal since you could actually ignore Bone Spirit, and having large numbers of minions that do absolutely nothing is technically a pretty fresh take on the class fantasy for Necromancers, Diablo 3, and games in general.

They didn’t just clip immunity, they clipped every build that wasn’t a Bone Spirit bot. The response completely locked the set down.

This is exactly what I meant. The new rework for the Rathma’s set was actually fun and I enjoyed it thoroughly, because It made me feel like my minions were actually doing something for once, or that they had a purpose besides healing me or freezing enemies so I can still do all the work.

@SimpleDave-1160

Yup also basically plays like Pestilence set except more juice.

Just what you need, another cancer LoD build.

I don’t know if I would call it cancer, but I do agree that it plays almost exactly like the Pestilence sets, and frankly makes me not want to play my Necromancer again.

@Tebo-1453

A 60s cooldown is, I guess, a hamfisted but acceptable fix to that problem if you don’t care about how the passive interacts with any other build.

Which is why I had initially suggested a diminishing return value for the Cooldown of Rathma’s Shield passive.
Have it last 4 seconds, then 3.5, then 3, then 2.5, and so on, until it does not last, then the cooldown is reset after 8 seconds which is double the duration of the original buff, then you start over again. Those are just example numbers, and I would hope that somebody smarter than me could figure it out, but still.

Doing it that way would let the set retain its original form with the rework, it would not make your necromancer an unkillable death-machine, and it would not require you to change a single passive that affects the entire class, and not just one build.

You are right, it was a very ham-fisted fix, that did not really fix anything at all.

@Tebo-1453

You will use Bone Spirit to do damage with Rathma and you will @#%$ing like it, basically.

As rude as that is, I fully agree. That is EXACTLY how it feels now.
The introduced a rework for a set that worked in every way, and had options, but then ham-fisted it as you said, and now you can only do it one way, and frankly it is not different from the other sets now.

I feel the community has the answer to the problem, but Blizzard just has not seen it yet…or is ignoring it, but the result is the same.

Anybody have any suggestions? Maybe you can go read my initial feedback post (which is well written if I do say so myself LOL) and maybe carry this over to there to consolidate?

I SWEAR, I’M NOT PROUD OF MY POST!