After reading the D4 quarterly update again it’s clear that players will be locked into just 6 skills (Huge, skills need to be spammable and fast to cast!), there will not be immunities, all skills maxed and interchangeable so skill points might as well not exist (esp if +skill is not an item modifier, for the love of god if that isn’t a modifier you guys are so far up your own smugness to see anything), there will not be charms (you need these, itemization looks like the same D3 formula. Why would a white, rare, blue, or rune ever be valuable in D4; again it’s just looking for set and unique gear with nothing else to hunt), the scale of character size is going to be the same scale as D3, they’re making it concurrently for console and PC, runes look sketchy, devs stated no lvl 99 (the options it appears they are laughably considering is a straight cap to easy 60, or infinite after 60 again /facepalm), the inventory screen looks nothing like D2, this looks entirely like Diablo 3. I don’t understand why anyone is optimistic, this looks like shallow brawling trash again.
Rejoice if you liked Diablo 3, cause this looks like an upgrade of D3 to D3 2.0. Making things “gritty and dark” does not equal D2, that’s what you all said when you were talking about D3 before it released.
Someone please explain how this “is going back to D2 roots” or trying to capture D2 fans. It looks more like Diablo 3: Revisited. How are they trying to do right by Diablo fans with what they’ve shown? This is more of Diablo 3 with D2 once again being exiled.
It should have been easy to predict that when Blizzard first talked about “going back to its roots” they didn’t mean “we’re just going to make it exactly like Diablo 2”.
Not that there aren’t some very real concerns with what we know about Diablo 4, but if you’re complaining that the inventory screen doesn’t look like Diablo 2 then it sounds like you wont be happy with anything short of just them remastering Diablo 2.
Which thankfully for you, they’re supposed to be doing.
Ya, the inventory with four tabs. One for consumables and one for materials? Hahahaha. I guess our inventory is so big so we can take trash to a vendor for crafting materials? Why? That’s incredibly lame. I don’t want to pick up trash to exchange for salvage. Or do I need to pick up 20 items to take to my stash before I return to town? I mean what is their intention?? I think it’s got to be the haul trash to town to salvage again, wayyyy worse than pick up and hold charms that are fun to find.
The items need to not be all the same size, that’s great that that works for console but they are compromising the game too much to “attempt” to maximize revenue; I hope it backfires cause we need a new quality Diablo. Not just quality visuals and polish. The item size, 6 skill lock, and lack of charms all scream console compatible to me. Well I hope a lot of people don’t buy it if that is the plan. This series just transformed to couch casual play for 100 hours and you’re done after Blizz North was shut down.
Diablo 3 sold well because of Diablo 2. If they are giving us this again I hope people aren’t fooled again. This is looking like Diablo 3 all over.
We also don’t know how we’re going to get materials. They might very well be a drop.
Personally I never liked charms that much. Their main unique mechanic wasn’t all that fun and while you could just add a secondary “charm inventory”, that basically just turns it into another gear slot with extra steps.
It’d be nice if Diablo 4 could try to be a quality Diablo game that doesn’t get caught up in trying to be a game we already have.
Well it looks like a D3 clone so best wishes on that.
Agreed, a charm inventory would be cumbersome. I think charms did a good job of using some of the active inventory space up. You could have as many free slots as you desired but I always like about 10 spaces. You don’t need to pick up trash to exchange for salvage which I find way worse.
Honestly it doesn’t really look like a D3 clone. Granted it clearly has some D3 DNA in it and the maxing all skills is worrisome, but that doesn’t automatically make it a clone.
Charms weren’t fun to me because it just turned your inventory into another gear slot. Inventory should be for storing items, not for boosting your stats.
It’d be good to try to find a way to make lower quality items valuable into the end game but I don’t think either Diablo 3 or 2 did a fantastic job of this so I don’t think either game should be the template for how Diablo 4 approaches it.
Salvage is boring, and in Diablo 2 the overwhelming majority of it is worthless anyway if it’s not a very specific item with a very specific socket count for runewords.
The success of 4D will not be contingent upon the views of some people who are stuck in the void of the year 2000. Lilith escaped the void and so can you. If you do not like D4 do not buy it. You will always have the forums to play.
Ya, I mean from D2 to D3 aren’t similar and a lot people were angry about D3 so D4 could look like GTA with Blizz history of not making sequels similar to the previous title. Diablo, the franchise of casual brawling and “expletive losers” -tm Jay Wilson. Forever, will his legacy be enshrined by D3 and D4.
No? I don’t see this.
I don’t like to play trash so that will probably be how it ends up except for the forum part cause I won’t buy a key now that I know what to expect and that it looks the same.
If you don’t like the previous one you’re a fool to keep buying it. So I won’t cause it looks like D3 2.0.
You will always have a home on this forum. When many of us have moved on to D4 you can still complain about D3 and D4 on this forum. If a D2 “remaster” is in the works I am sure you will complain about that as well. You will be the lord of the forum.
What does nostalgia have to do with D2 being an objectively better game? And I already have and play D2 but the thought of a remaster with future support/content sounds much more appealing than Diablo 3.5. Will be interesting to see the player counts of D2R and D4 2 years from now
