If you take a look at D1, D2 and D3, the differences in mechanics and gameplay, its very different from one another, but to me, D4 looks exactly like D3 mechanicwise - just with a few minor adjustments and additions.
Same combat mechanic/timed abilities
Wouldn’t everyone want to see the D2 combat mechanics, untimed abilities, where your gear makes the biggest impact?
Skills look to become the exact same as D3, and Paragons skills are now just a part of the actual character rank/level., with some POE-twist…
Wouldn’t everyone want to see a mix between D2, D3 and POE with actual stats, “free” skills and ways to enhance/build your character skills around items?
Loot. Just the fact that they INDICATE that legendaries will drop left and right sets of an alarm bell here. No Need to identify… I mean atleast add the scrolls of tp/identify, this is a major part of Diablo franchise - and has always been. Stop making everything so damn easy to achieve. Also the way that the items seem to calculate defense/attack looks absolutely stupid. Why does a lvl1 weapon have several hundred DPS? STOP MAKING THIS INTO WORLD OF WARCRAFT!!! A lvl1 weapon should have 2-6 damage… Look at Diablo 2… Please go back to the core foundation of the franchise, and atleast START there.
Im sad to say this, but I have a feeling that Blizzard has learned nothing from the mobile announcement, its still the same people working the desks, this team or lead simply do not have the competence to deliver a true successor to Diablo 2. They choose to start where Diablo 3 stopped.
Non of what you have stated here is true. D4 has more in common with D2 than D3.
And no I don’t want a mix of d2, d3 and POE?! with free skills. Stats - now that I would like. Runewords and talents give you FAR more possibilities than any other ARPG currently. I just hope they keep those mechanics because back in 08 D3 looked much better that it even is today.
They did not indicate that. Mythics are the deal and you can have only one per charecter which is great.
Get off the hate train… or any train for that matter.
Im not on any trains, you on the other hand seem to have never played Diablo 1 or Diablo 2 - if you think that this D4 demo looks more like D2 than D3.
No stats
No resists
No modifiers except for “attack%” and “defense%”
No townportal / Identiy scroll
No real runewords
No charms
Max lvl40 not lvl99
List could go on already…
D4 is so far a dumbed down version of D3 - no hate train - just being absolutely realistic about it. If I wanted POE I would play POE - but I want Diablo 2 Successor, like most others, so maybe Blizzard should have STARTED from the core of Diablo 2 rather than the core of Diablo 3 with inspiration from POE…
First of all, that leggies you saw in vids, they were prepared to drop during demo session. Ive watched several youtubers and streamers on the same class, each had same items except rolls and magic/rares.
Second of all, there are legendaries/uniques+ancients+mythics. Mythic items are restricted to one, but the one that has been showed had 4 unique stats. It will probably be like legendaries/uniques have 1 unique stat + other normal rolls you have on rares (thus rare can be better than a bad legendary). Ancient items will have probably 2.
In terms of runewords, they stated activated socketed runes, so it will proc all of them? Also, beside Vex (activate runes on hp pot use), they showed one that procs on enemy freeze. This can be really interesting, as you can make full buff build with like barb, use your generators only and still be super effective if you find a good way to proc all of the runes.
Cooldown abilities are needed - you can see POE meta right now. BASIC farmer in POE has 1-2 movement skills that he spams and is able to one shot packs with that (flame dash in fire DOT builds, flicker strike as main skill, leap slam with something like bubonic trail boots/abberaths hooves + vaal earthquake,etc.) . It is inflating difficulty REALLY badly. CD on skills actually provides a good way of making strategic decisions and enhances gameplay. That said, it can ruin it, it can be okay or it can make a game much better.
twz, I am sorry but you are just saying stuff. First of all, I have spent thousands of hours on D2 and I am playing it right now actually.
We do not know if we will have stats yet.
We have resists and we have amazing modifiers (see the mythic amulet shown in bluddshed video for example)
Runewords are a hell of a start, charms might come arount.
I do NOT want to have EVERYTHING in the base game. We will have expansions full of content just like in LoD. You are on a train. Crazy hate train.
The way builds work is completly different from D3, endgame will be different, exploration is different. Get real.
Why do you believe so vigorously that all the stuff you don’t like will even remain there? Hell, I am worried about the good stuff staying and you are saying stuf like “no real end game”. What is a real end game dude? What was real end game in D2? It was the fact that everything is so cool that you want to do it again and again and find every freaking item in the game. And it seems we might get that in D4. How is WoW even remotly related to what we have seen?
Man, I mean I was just like you with D3 but back then we had some ground for complaining. The art was from WoW, the systems, It was too hard than too easy… Now you are getting a GLIMPSE of this good looking game and you cry.
I would love nothing more, in the world of games, to see any Diablo game made from David Brevik again so this is not my perfect game either, but you are just crazy.
Look at the systems and features panel, the entire openworld vs. dungeon/solo/crafting/gathering was a 100% presentation of WoW.
Max lvl40, so they can push an endless amount of new level cap Expansions down your throat, look at WoW.
Everything they are doing, they do for economic reason, not to try deliver what we really want. Wasnt that obvious when they announced Diablo Immortal?
Its the same leadership/game model lead behind Diablo 4.
You are looking weird at the affixes. Yout have some GREAT examples. Search for “the obsidian heart diablo 4”. Not to mention they might add new affixes along the AT LEAST 2 years way…
Systems are nowhere near Wow and d3. Open world? This is what was intended for Diablo 3 from the start dude. Blizzard North were working on open world game and they were very exited about it. So this is where we are headed from the freaking start.
Max lvl 40 can change and I don’t really care if there are endless amount of expansions. This means new content, isn’t that what we want?!
Of course management cares about money. However try to remember that developers are not management. And they want to create a good game.
