An email to the guy that writes it would, in his own words, result in him taking down the site / stop development of the add-on. So, in all the years it’s been available, all Blizzard had to do was send him an email. So, if they wanted the use of this curtailed, why haven’t they sent such an email? It seems like a no-brainer. Send the guy the email and see if he does what he said he would.
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Wow the turbohud discussion is still alive after all of these years.
I took a common sense approach towards it because you will get 100 different answers asking this question on the forums.
Let’s take an real life example:
- Player plays World of Warcraft for years and is finally bored.
- Same player sees Diablo 3 is on sale and wants to try it.
- Same player uses tons of overlays for World of Warcraft because it’s “normal and everyone does it”
- Same player doesn’t know anyone that plays D3 so assumes “Hey I wonder if there are any game enhancing overlays available for D3?”
- Player finds Thud and downloads it and uses it.
Is this player guilty of some crime? Would Blizzard really punish this player?
I would think that blanket banning for Turbo Hud wouldn’t happen. If it does happen it would be a one off case that could be addressed with Blizzard customer support.
I don’t use it, because D3 is pretty whatever nowadays. I don’t see a crime in using it, however. It’s irrational to say overlays are okay in one blizzard game and not in others. If it is not automating actions, I don’t see an issue.
Once again this is always all personal opinion. At the end of the day it’s just a game. It is up to you if you want to use it or not. Whether you are willing to “risk it” or not.
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EULA warns any 3rd-party program can be cheating. This doesn’t make sense because under this rule if you have a voice chat on Discord with your friends, it can be cheating.
However Blizzard will NEVER ban you for using Discord. So there are some other rules not mentioned in EULA and they won’t tell you what’s that.
As the common sense,
- any overlay can be considered cheating;
- anything reading memory of D3 process are cheating.
If you’re using a 3rd-party program to help you play the game and it requires admin permission to run, it must be cheating.
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WoW overlays use open APIs instead of reading memory, but there is no open API for D3, so overlays read memory, which is illeagal.
IMO overlay itself shouldn’t be illegal and Windows has no API for overlay detection so there is no proof you’re using overlay. However it does violate EULA.
I know people complain on the old forum about being banned for using a process enlarging his mouse cursor, but in the same thread others argue they’ve been using it for years and not banned.
The lack of action on Blizzard’s part is mindboggling due to the very reason you said. Would it really be so hard to send a simple e-mail just to test it?
Still doesn’t make TurboHUD any more allowed.
Devs once said they were divided on TurboHUD. Half for it, half against it.
I wouldn’t be surprised if D4 has monsters on the minimap built in, however.
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Comparing Turbohud to Botting is like comparing thinking about murder to actually committing it. Turbohud gives a very slight advantage whilst speeding or pushing, but in reality if you push enough you’ll end up getting lucky and just as good a GR without it. You’re just more likely to see elites or pylons you might have missed without it.
Botting… is essentially free gear. People run bounties day in and day out. Having endless mats to roll perfect gear and get paragon 9000?
It’s not the same at all. I got bored of d3 a few years back and decided to try botting for the fun of it. I actually got banned pretty quickly. Not sure why, since I barely had any paragon and not pushing leaderboards, etc. Not the point though… I would leave it running while I went to work, and it would surprise the hell out of you how much you would have when you got home. I ended up getting another account and never tried it again, I just don’t play all that much now.
Anyway, just wanted to clear that up if people weren’t aware of just how much botting does. Sooooo much free paragon, lol.
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Think. You’re programmer, some hacker had been cracking your software long time and posted a message somewhere saying: If you pray him he will immediately removes his tool from the internet.
Would you try to make your software un-hackable and avoid the laughs of the community?
Which means it gives an unfair advantage, otherwise maps would start fully revealed, and elites & pylons would be marked on said maps in the actual game.
Unfair advantage is unfair advantage, whether it comes from cheats like Thud that reveals stuff that aren’t supposed to be revealed from the get go, or free gear waiting for you in your stash that you didn’t farm yourself - which is what you’re supposed to do in a game like this.
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What’s the point of contacting the Turbohud when the internet is freedom, there could a Turboview borns someday.
If Blizz considers there’s future in D3 and decides throwing some resource on it. They will fix it as it should be.
It’s cheating, and can be banned be using it.
But seem like blizz is doing nothing about that atm.
Did anyone stop to think that most of the Diablo player base enjoy using cheats? If they get banned, Diablo servers may become ghost towns. I still would like to know how very low level character’s (70 p 50) can wreck high level Grifts with great speed.
Yep. I particularly enjoy watching so-called famous streamers get banned while streaming.
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For me, I don’t care either way on what happens with it. For me, it doesn’t impact the fun I have playing the game as I don’t care about being number 1 (or even number 1000 for that matter). I play casually for fun with a few friends so the bots and Hud users are whatever.
I do still think that bots are more of a problem then THUD is. But both are considered breaking the terms and you can be banned for it. Its on the user if they want to risk their account for it. And from past views on it, you won’t get no warning saying “stop using HUD”, you will just get banned so risk if you dare.
I will say this though too, a lot of the complaints I’ve seen on the forums about both, even if every bot and Hud user was banned, most of the people complaining about it still would not make the top 1000 and be on the boards and would prob continue to complain about the top board people have to be cheating somehow.
Also how long did the maphack last in D2 (hell is it even still going on). Shows a bit of the track record were working with here.
I wouldn’t say “most”, but I’m sure many of the core players enjoy cheating, including botting and overlay (and macros if you think they’re cheating, but many casual players like macro too and it’s literally unhealthy to play the game for hours without using macro).
The only impact of cheating on the other players is leaderboard - that’s why anti-bot makes little sense to the game. Casual players doesn’t benifit at all, and some core players get benefit while others are banned.
Politically correctly speaking we shouldn’t allow cheating, but to this game cheating mostly impact your own fun. a few hundreds of people may get angry at cheaters, but most of the player base are not impacted by them.
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I don’t agree. With lower paragon it is harder to find party.
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This will never get old. I still remember Wyatt Cheng plugging him on Twitter. Hilarious stuff.
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Good point. I mostly play solo/duo so I didn’t think about that.
You’re right if you assume the cheaters will play lawfully after getting banned. I actually assume the cheaters will leave the game if they’re banned, so IMO the impact on finding party is much smaller than it seems.
It could be that Blizzard already took a census of how many cheaters there are versus actual honest players. Maybe they chose not to enforce the game policy due to the risk of damaging the Diablo player base. I believe Blizzard has the ability to monitor players on their servers. That said, it feels like they can violate player privacy due to the suspicion of cheaters in the game. Much like real world terrorism suspicion pushes aside citizen rights to protect the country.
@DJAetius and @Basshead: You should nuke those vids from your posts as they’re CoC violations (discussing moderation), as well as essentially naming and shaming. Not trying to be a prude here, just trying to keep you folks out of trouble. 
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