D3 literally better than D4. IT'S A FACT

I was just thinking about that legendary case!

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Just one? :frowning_face::rofl:

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He can’t even tell the difference between fact and opinion.
What game is better than others is a matter of personal preference.
Granted, I am of the same opinion in this case but it still isn’t a fact.
There are enough people preferring d4 over d3.

So the title of this very thread is wrong.

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To tell the truth, I’ve decided to delay entry in D4 Season 3, which I’ve also done with several D3 seasons if I don’t skip them entirely, like the first soulstone season. I believe I only dabbled that season in that I did the Journey to Guardian and quit.

Anyway, point is, a snapshot of a single season is pretty bad when judging the overall health or popularity of a game.

For instance, Season 2 was pretty good in Diablo 4 and that Level cap nonsense of D3 was just stupid, so I played D4 and not D3 but you didn’t see many folks (correct me if I’m wrong) bashing Diablo 3 over it.

I agree with the OP, because Diablo 4 is at the half way to be a great game. Why? Because, in the part they wanted to make it similar to D2, is much better D2. And in the part they wanted to be similar to D3, is much better D3. I love the entire Diablo saga, but Diablo 4 doesn’t generate the hype that Diablo 2 and Diablo 3 did.

i was literally right and Jesseth’s was number 1 on the leaderboard until they nerfed it. the only argument being made against me was that the 2nd-10th players weren’t using jessith’s so i was somehow wrong. all of them would have conformed to the most powerful setup they were losing to eventually.

FACT IS JESSETH’S WAS #1 ON THE LEADERBOARD.

i am always right, and it pains you.

how many of you literally argued with me about D4 when i told you it was bad? How can you look me directly in the eyes right now and still doubt anything i say? Have you even apologized to me for the things you told me when you thought i was wrong about D4? well, have you?

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Jesseth’s hasn’t been nerfed. Ever.

Yes, Jesseth’s was on the boards. It didn’t lose its placements due to any nerf, it simply was inferior choice, plain and simple.

Donald is that you? :clown_face:

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D4 definitely got a ton of issues, but it is still so much better than D3.

Saddest part about D4 however is, it seems to be on the same trajectory as D3, where it gets worse and worse post-release.

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Bravatas messages are slightly too coherent for that. Even if they are equally wrong.

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literally #1

except #1 on the boards lol :thinking:

Then why didn’t it stay there? Because it was the inferior choice.

why is it so hard for you guys to admit you were wrong? it’s a serious character flaw. I LITERALLY TOLD YOU GUYS THAT JESSETH’S WOULD BE THE BEST BY FAR.

a week later when ptr opened and it was playable, Jesseth’s shot up to literally #1. It was the best. At the time of that thread and argument, Jesseth’s was #1. PTR has changes and nerfs and buffs and alterations, so of course the argument would no longer be applicaple after any changes.

i was right. learn to live with it.

On topic, have we ever seen a bigger disaster than D4 season 3? I mean season 1 is close, but it was at least new game. Either way, D4 has the be the biggest triple A flop of all time.

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ET for the Atari.

CDPR literally got sued because of how bad Cyberflunk was on launch.

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Keep telling yourself that. The evidence disproves your claim and no one believes you.

Thread has a small merit though, it’s perfect for telling Blizzard that they have failed to diverse Diablo 4 from Diablo 3.

You may have receive feedback towards people wanting D4 to be more like D3, but that would be abit more complicated than it seems. You already given fans the Diablo 3 and it’s still relevant. You have to melt D2 and D3 in a pot, yet shove aside your profiteering schemes for a small while to achieve that.

You achieved that in Diablo Immortal to a degree as well, what is stopping you from going aboard now? Why it feels like you are trying to imitate Path of Exile when a reminiscence of good gameplay is just standing there at this series’ past?
On top of committance and reflex checks, add there some problem solving and adaptation in combat. Diverse risk and reward stakes of classes further at their core. When all fails, you still have untapped potential at PVP if you dare to make a good crafting system going.

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Maybe they should add the Altar of Rites to Diablo 4 permanently :rofl:

My armchair opinion is that quote from Wayne (that apparently he might not ever have said?) about chasing where the puck was, as opposed to where it’s going to be.

D2 was lightning in a bottle. Nobody can ever recreate that, and Blizz should know - they literally tried, with D2R. (It’s a good attempt, but it still ain’t it)

D3 took 5 years or so before it “got good” and that was 10 years ago. People don’t have that kind of patience anymore.

D4, the devs stated wanted to “return to roots” but that’s just chasing where the puck already was. Good idea in terms of nostalgic atmosphere, terrible idea in terms of making a modern product. It can’t be modern if it’s built on 10 year+ infrastructure. (Which Blizz also knows, because of the “we copied D3 code so now we can’t have stash tabs” problem)

D4 needs to be its own thing. Nobody high enough up in the decision making process is allowing it to do that.

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Definitely not the only code they copied.

I had concerns with D4 before I even got to the stash… the 12 character limit for character names rubbed me the wrong way from the start. It’s been one of my big pet peeves with D3 since the game came out and it carried over to D4.

The same limited number of character slots was the other disappointment I noticed when playing the open beta.

The third thing was the inefficiencies with running around towns to get to vendors and your stash. This felt like a step backwards from D3. Combined with the lack of randomised dungeon generator, and the trek to Nightmare Dungeons (which they’ve since fixed but it was there when I was making my decision about the game)… I didn’t see much reason to jump on the D4 bandwagon as it felt like I was signing up for all the problems D3 has all over again.

D3 is still missing the QoL of the Altar and Fissures in NS. It feels like an incomplete game because of this. If they can get D3 right for maintenance mode, I might have some hope that they can do the same for D4.

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Just give me pet/auto-salvage and radius about Orbs, and I would be the happiest man :joy:

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Yeah, but gimp all nodes D4 style. Like “double DB drops” to “increase drops of whatever by 2%”.