D2R versus D3 opinion

You didn’t have enough dps in blues to beat the enrage timer.

No, but it says nothing. He beat Diablo before he hit paragon 100, but that could have been at any point during a span of 1.5 years, with a LOT of nerfs spread out over that time.

Whatever you have to tell yourself
I said

How is that all blues
And just because I couldn’t do something, like a GR 70 didn’t mean it was impossible, just that I wasn’t good enough at that stage
Does that mean that all those people doing GR 150 are all cheating because there is no way I could do 1 of those
NO it just means I’m not that good

It’s a fact. Original Inferno before patch 1.0.4 you didn’t beat in blues and yellows.

Like I said YOU couldn’t just like I couldn’t do a GR 70 didn’t make it impossible

Jump in game and provide a screenshot of the ach of your inferno Diablo kill with the time of acquiring before 21/8 -12 and I will concede.

Paragon v1 was introduced in Patch 1.0.4 on 21st August 2012.

The screenshot of my Barb having 7 legendaries / Paragon 100 is from 9th May 2013, i.e. 7 months after paragon was introduced and 10 months before ROS.

I’ll just jump in my TARDIS and go back in time to get the software to take a picture and put it on a HD that I took with me to put it on

Yeah, and “Original Inferno” ended with patch 1.0.4, because after that the nerf for the content and buffs for the players started.

It’s the same account you’re playing now, ain’t it? The achievements are dated.

Like I even know where to find that in the first place or even know how to take a screenshot or where they even put the picture once it’s taken or even how to post a picture in the forums
I fire up D3 and play the game don’t care about the achievements

I can take screenshots of the achievements for killing Diablo on Inferno showing dates. That doesn’t mean I can magically conjure up screenshots of the gear I was wearing at the time but, bearing in mind the dates it happened, I know for sure it was likely all in yellows.

No, I’ll take your word for it, I’m just saying that “before paragon 100” gave me no frame of reference regarding time (Well it did, but it encompassed most of D3:s life before RoS). And I also specified before 1.0.4 when the nerfs started, it became much easier after that.

I know for sure that I had a Manticore as a weapon on my first kill, and definitely zero blues.

Indeed.

:100:

Yeah, cant remember what I had, but I very much doubt I had more than maybe 1 legendary at the first kill, considering how rare, and how bad, they were.

According to the achievements, my first kill was June 8. Sadly no screenshots of that character with character sheet open, and I sure cant see what the gear was based on the character itself :smiley: Got some screenshots of my other characters at the time though, and they had a single legendary, everything else was yellow and blue.

Looking at those screenshots kicked in the nostalgic feelings though. D3 was good, for a short time.

Builds like Jade Harvester require careful cooldown management in high GR and they wipe the floor with everything D2 has to offer tactic-wise.

You’re probably just inexperienced/ignorant so you feel that way.

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Diablo 3 High GR130+ gameplay: :point_down:

Involving with a lot of positioning and setup. Even the best gear doesn’t allow the players to stand there and face tank and spam 1 skill on everything to win.

Diablo 2 Endgame PVE content: :point_down:

Get surrounded by minions and boss. Facetank everything. Spam one skill and pots and guaranteed victory. Having the best gear trivialized the hardest content easily.

Clearing Hell P8 Chaos Sanctuary with the best gear: :point_down:

Facetank everything. Spam potions if required. Win.

And people has the audacity to think that D3 lack of challenge and tactical combat. Either it is someone who think he is a hotshot for clearing T16 or just a hater will cook anything up and lies to discrediting D3 or just outright ignorant.

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That doesn’t exactly tell that game is any easy, that only means Lifetap and Decrepify are overpowered and that’s fine. Diablo 2 gave you different approaches by massing recovery or crowd control alas, its mistake was limited difficulty ceiling and not balancing highest content properly for it to be repeatable.
Think of the Uber Tristram content as Hellfire content of Diablo 3; in years, Diablo 3 surpassed that challenge already while legacy of D2 never get a proper update sparing D2R. Developers wanted a challenge but not much for it to be available to players. Otherwise, it’s not entirely hard to completely negate drain effectiveness from Uber Diablo, Baal and Mephisto. I’d expect some changes to it with D2R but I doubt, it’d go beyond some tweaks.

“They” referred directly to both games, so not sure how being more tactical than D2 changes things.
But like with the “oh my, map fishing in D3 is sooo tactical”, careful cooldown management is not really that. By tactical gameplay I mean different enemies matter, what they do matter, how you react matter. Not “i need to push this button after I gathered enemies trolololo, oh wait, that is exactly what all other builds do too!”.

Look at the video posted above. The gameplay is a joke.

Personally, I’ve only made it up to inferno (little before act 2) before it’s eventual nerf; however I wouldn’t be surprise if someone did beat the original inferno in rares and such as during that time, most legendary items were pretty weak in comparison and had to be buffed in order to be more appealing.

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This guy is clueless and never played d2 before. All he does on this forum is pretend he is a mod and fanboy D3 because he cant take criticism and actually thinks d3 is harder then d2 lol. clearly he only ever played d3 where u literally hold one button the whole game. The only time D3 was a challenge was when it first came out and had inferno but it was also broken because the way drops worked because it was worked against you to buy items via AH.

Well, it is. Even at players 8 you can steamroll D2. Sure, you can waltz trough 150 solo if you have enough thousands of hours put in, but that’s a fraction of a fraction that can do that. In D2 all you need is some spare cash.

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