Current META as it Stand Pre PTR End Week 2 ( Players Thoughts Requested )

Paragon / XP Speeds - Standard RATS ( Utilsing Seasonal Buff )
*In my opinion capping around 110 115 possibly
2x LOD Mages Necs
1x zNEC ( Infinite Frozen Lands - Assisting LOD Mages )
1x zBarb Globe ( 22 Radius Pickup Barb )

Meta Push * Begging around Para 115 potentially based on Paragon
WD Trash Killer - New Set
Sader - RGK
zMonk Sanc - Supprot
zBarb Pull - Incorporating new 2 Piece Set

Classes that wont have any place in Group Play
Demon Hunter - No Surprise there
Wizard - While Vyrs Speeds was once a thing it is simply over shadow by RATS and the New Hydra Set given the changes and the NERF to the LOD Build has yet to Shine Speed or Meta Wise

Feel free to add your thoughts and if you believe it might be something different

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Playing solo, so couldn’t care less…

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Post was more focus around player feedback from those playing in Group not Solo. But thanks for the Feedback all the same

I didn’t know the Sader was an RGK, but the rest is reasonable. As a Wizard, it sucks I can’t speed or push, but I’d say my class had awhile in the sun, even if I never partook of the broken mechanics that made it possible.

      It sucks Blizzard whiffed so hard with Typhoon's and nerfed Bazooka so incompetently it removed Wizards out of all aspects of group play, but..Blizzard.

I’d go as far to say Barbarians are the best class in the game, with high performing builds in all FOUR aspects of Diablo 3. No other class can make such a claim.

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I’m already checked out of next season. I’ll just get a Necro going to get the rewards

Large open map (double fest/BF) with condy, Nova necro (S20 exclusive) should clear progression faster. Damage potential of Nova necro should be higher than WD, but WD has more control in centralize damage on elites (similar to Bazooka SP). Both WD/Necro Nova can trash kill in push, mid high speeds (13x-14x) possibly WD has more consistency on narrow maps than Nova necro. On tiers where Lance necro can 1 - 2 shot RG, its cursing utility as well as cycle low HP elites (16-30%) is more valuable than crusader on progression contribution. Experienced Lancer can freeze teleporter/ranged mobs at correct timing assisting stomp barb in locking mobs. On the contrary, crusader on mid low speeds (125+ - 13x), where it can kill weak trash, helps trash killer spawning occy, especially nova necro where its 25 yard radius Nova is centralised on Necro him self, making selective targeting(conserve trash amount on occy spawn) more limiting than WD phantasm placements.

In short, WD + Nova necro both viable for trash kill. Crusader + various necro as RGK. Crusader RGK on 150 push brings more consistency on average RGK. But for time trials, it shouldnt be faster than Blighter fishing thorns necro OR on capable groups, Bone Spirit RGK. Extreme fishings, orlash with Ivory Tower option too.

From PTR, I feel this patch, you have more diversity in META groups high tier speed/push than previous patches unprecedented. Hope it can break the one META beats all combo D3 tradition.

DH / wiz most definitely excluded in any form of META. Maybe some zdh can fill in some groups casually, thats about it. Wish 2.6.9, DH brings some exciting plays into action, kick the up coming trash kill/rgk to cold bench.

Wiz has been too dominant. It appears in META at least 13/14+ / 19 seasons. I dont mind for them to sit a 1 - 2 year cold bench. Blizzard has been too biased on wizard as DPS role. Twister and Bazooka are 2 of the most broken mechanics in this game although both meta were extremely fun to play/beneficial to my GR skill growth.

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Rats will get to around 125 ish in s20
Meta will have variance in the RGK slot for pushing times/speed,
It’ll be thorns necro without a doubt.

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Misread the thread as “Prayers and Thoughts Requested” like it was a eulogy for the DH this coming season…