So i run crusader invoker build, i have all the items i need + 900 paragon level and i cant Even do t16 with all my def cd 1shotted
Same stuff on my DH and i can do GR100
So thats why nobody play crusader and u see 100 dh everyday melee suck and they cant do anything
So trash game
It’s not the game, it’s the player.
#SorryNotSorry
True its the player, makes sense when u can do it on a DH cuz they can do it. Ok lol
DH is the most noob friendly class to play. Hence its everywhere. Easy, strong and requires 0 understanding on how it actually works. So dont go comparing that with another class that requires just a little more brain power to operate.
Other players managed to do it, so dont you think its just you who are too dumb to play a rather more complicated build than your brain dead demon hunter UE/shadow build?
Any fangays gonna whiteknight your previous DH? Ok lol
Clearly you must be doing something wrong since Invoker is very tanky build and meant to be able to take hits.
I don’t think so… If you think Impale DH requires no brain power, what is the brain power you’ll need for Condemn Cru?
One is the character you spent more time on with more main stat, and other one is the character you didn’t put any thought on with poor main stats. It’s not hard to grasp.
Crusader is one of the most tankiest builds out there but their damage mitigation bonuses from Sets don’t come free like Demon Hunters; where they have an almost constantly active damage mitigation with Perma-Veng or constant Shadow Power but 'saders have to trigger something or manage cooldowns to have efficiency.
Crusaders’ tankiness come from huge boosts to the elemental resistances and their Laws combined with damage mitigation buffs where DHs have high damage mitigation on their Sets with almost no effort. When Crusaders set their equipment and picked right defensive buffs, they’re nigh unstoppable.
tl;dr: show effort instead of trash posting. Crusaders are widely known as tankiest class.
ps. Don’t turn this thread into a 'sader vs DH stuff. That’s what trolls want.
99% of people who claim this while complaining a build sucks actually don’t have all items they need. This is a common mistake by not-so-experienced players.
Experienced players won’t claim this, because they know by talking about a build it is already assumed you have all items.
More experienced players won’t complain because they know why it sucks.
Invoker is one of the easiest builds to play mechanically. You probably miss out on crucial life per hit rolls if you see yourself dieing in t16
Yeah but you dont need impale for 100, MS is faster there anyway probably no? And certainly for n00bs it is.
My highest GR is with impale but I’ve played it for ever…I’m used to it and it’s elite hunting ways. My MS build does way more damage yet I cannot go near the 111 GR area my impale is…i suck at the MS.
I have invoker set up fully yet no augments, I ran a GR 90 with him and decided wasn’t for me and yes, he was very squishy at certain times just like my other sader builds were, one shot kill a lot of times when akarats was down.
Most of it was my mistake on not paying attention to cool downs because I wasn’t used to it. My condem sader will face tank everything and not die though…
It’s all about how much you play on what character build and also, what your own skills are. I don’t have the coordination and young fast fingers to be playing all the high end wizard crap so I don’t even try…even if I had all primal and good para I would suck.
The UE DH is probably one of the easier builds to play. It’s fun to run, very versatile, and reaches GR 100 w/o much in the way of skill these days. UE is also one of the harder builds to master. Very, very few people can reach a GR 120 with UE because very few people have the patience to learn the skills necessary to run UE that high.
And as for the OP’s mentioning
That’s just out there as Troll Bait.
Similar to some who have no idea what they are doing, so they use the “must be a bug” defense.
Do you use Belt of the Trove and aquila? And all diamond in all socket.
um… invoker is the most idiotic friendly build in the game along side impale. If you cant handle invoker, than clearly its not the game, its the player problem. If melee sucks can you explain why invoker has 135+ GR cleared? Clearly its not the paragon thing, you can have 100k paragon, if the build is incapable, its incapable.
Get better pleb.
On the helpful end - Google Icy Veins’ builds for Crusader thorns/invoker and look on DFANS DiabloFans and reddit.
There are some fine builds out there. On the pure logic end - if what you said was true, nobody would have reached well over 100 and many did so before the damage upgrades.
Actually true of all builds if you use Icy Vein guides and follow their development of the builds. NO work NO effort. And yes I do use the guides because I am not analytical enough nor have the time to sit down and plan a build.
Crusader is squishy using sets indeed and requires carefull decisions. Indeed, considering he has a huge shield, he should have been the tankiest but yeah the shield is just for artwork
if u want be trashkiller you can use lod blessed shield, lod condemn or lod heaven fury, if u want to be a single target dps go invoker and (with much less dps use akkhan+crimsons+heaven fury)