Congratulations 风中劲草 and other top barbs on your non-season GR clears

Barbarian
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Don’t give that guy any attention at all please.

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I recently downloaded through the API the entire America leaderboards for all classes in era 11 and in the current non-season era 12. In total there are 21,000 data points. I have already analyzed this data for “greater rift efficiency”. The data is imperfect but I may make a post in general discussion.

The reason for this thread in this forum is that the worldwide leaderboard for barbarians seemed most appropriate to post in the barbarian forum.

In relation to other class-specific leaderboards, you can look at the top worldwide GR clears for all classes by going to https://hero.d.163.com/ This link was included in the initial post in this thread if you are interested in other classes.

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The point being made wasn’t that it’s inappropriate for this table to be in the Barbarian class forums but that you didn’t bother to post an equivalent table for each of the other six classes in their respective forums.

What happened to your repeated claim of wanting balance?

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If I put together the information for 7 distinct posts in each class forum, I would simply make a post in general discussion with all the data that could be used to think about game balance.

Since patch 2.6.7 launched on the live server, 99% of my play time has been on barbarians. Inspection of my profile will reveal a single seasonal character and it is a barbarian.

I may ultimately put a thread together on game balance.

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This user’s public profile is hidden.

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My character profile is not hidden. Hover over my avatar to see my battletg that can be used to see my characters. For your convenience:

https://us.diablo3.com/en/profile/MicroRNA-1507/hero/116200754

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So, because you didn’t do the seven separate posts to each class forum, or an amalgamated post for all seven classes, you’re still just singling out Barbarians, i.e. it’s nothing to do with inter-class balance analysis, just trying to bash Barbarians.

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Here you go:

Barbarian
Rank Battletag GR Tier GR clear time Date
1 风中劲草 145 13m5.550s 12/8/2019 21:50
2 Horasohn 144 14m13.516s 12/27/2019 19:41
3 darkpatator 144 14m36.50s 12/10/2019 1:49
4 Crucifix 144 14m43.800s 12/27/2019 20:20
5 九命 143 14m18.483s 12/16/2019 7:30
6 Ulmaguest 143 14m24.650s 11/30/2019 20:12
7 fw6263 143 14m47.383s 12/3/2019 20:45
8 离一 142 14m4.116s 1/1/2020 17:39
9 피어로이 142 14m6.166s 11/26/2019 16:06
10 Jiraya 142 14m44.399s 12/12/2019 13:09
Crusader
Rank Battletag GR Tier GR clear time Date
1 Sky 150 10m6.633s 12/20/2019 23:24
2 ArThurCJ 150 13m6.250s 12/27/2019 15:29
3 二是个孤独的素质 150 14m19.983s 12/24/2019 12:48
4 重新来过 150 14m32.766s 12/31/2019 22:46
5 Rzeźnik 150 14m4.233s 12/17/2019 5:52
6 KamX 148 14m13.100s 12/27/2019 10:11
7 Crucifix 148 14m21.33s 12/10/2019 16:02
8 LoL484 148 14m35.283s 12/22/2019 15:17
9 Den78ru 148 14m37.849s 12/18/2019 5:27
10 鸡酱 147 13m48.833s 11/30/2019 5:35
Demon Hunter
Rank Battletag GR Tier GR clear time Date
1 Sky 140 14m4.350s 11/30/2019 22:12
2 MacDeath 138 14m41.16s 12/24/2019 8:57
3 fw6263 137 12m43.450s 12/13/2019 20:03
4 IRONMAN 137 14m47.800s 1/1/2020 5:26
5 makila 136 13m37.116s 12/10/2019 5:22
6 NIRVANER 136 14m8.783s 11/22/2019 22:49
7 Ulmaguest 136 14m22.583s 11/22/2019 22:21
8 KamX 135 13m48.949s 12/31/2019 13:38
9 福利奶嘴 135 14m28.566s 1/2/2020 12:17
10 重新来过 135 14m0.816s 11/22/2019 13:59
Monk
Rank Battletag GR Tier GR clear time Date
1 ArThurCJ 143 13m25.483s 11/29/2019 12:59
2 darkpatator 143 14m6.833s 12/9/2019 3:57
3 fw6263 142 14m32.16s 12/21/2019 21:15
4 Schm0n 142 14m6.716s 12/30/2019 23:56
5 Jota 140 12m9.966s 12/15/2019 13:26
6 Limi 140 14m6.583s 12/8/2019 8:26
7 Nuyir 140 14m27.800s 12/23/2019 13:39
8 Kev306 140 14m49.350s 11/30/2019 7:46
9 Bresoft 140 14m0.600s 1/1/2020 3:20
10 아르고스 139 13m13.566s 12/1/2019 19:47
Necromancer
Rank Battletag GR Tier GR clear time Date
1 ArThurCJ 136 13m26.800s 12/24/2019 18:34
2 Lenio 136 14m2.566s 12/26/2019 6:29
3 九命 135 13m40.133s 11/22/2019 12:40
4 hionpotuse 135 13m43.833s 12/10/2019 3:41
5 Leon 135 14m34.133s 11/22/2019 3:37
6 EPT127 135 14m0.733s 12/20/2019 2:34
7 Nikopol 134 13m49.516s 12/19/2019 3:07
8 重庆丶光头强 134 14m2.783s 11/22/2019 10:16
9 离一 134 14m.266s 12/24/2019 19:21
10 倚石护青烟 134 14m29.666s 12/2/2019 0:33
Witch Doctor
Rank Battletag GR Tier GR clear time Date
1 fw6263 142 13m26.666s 12/22/2019 12:53
2 Horasohn 142 14m0.533s 12/23/2019 20:21
3 大狗明 141 12m25.533s 11/22/2019 17:49
4 Jiraya 140 12m40.883s 11/21/2019 12:46
5 PANNA96 140 14m34.800s 12/24/2019 21:46
6 ArtOfHY 138 12m45.649s 12/18/2019 21:13
7 makila 138 14m43.66s 11/27/2019 5:31
8 造七级浮屠 137 12m46.950s 12/26/2019 20:56
9 magiuks 137 13m47.766s 12/17/2019 18:37
10 Jusuto 137 14m49.700s 11/30/2019 17:44
Wizard
Rank Battletag GR Tier GR clear time Date
1 아르고스 144 14m26.666s 12/16/2019 19:41
2 花无缺 142 12m40.683s 11/25/2019 5:43
3 hionpotuse 142 14m3.132s 12/5/2019 9:03
4 Schm0n 142 14m14.533s 12/20/2019 5:12
5 Crucifix 141 14m7.333s 12/23/2019 16:24
6 幼稚园老大 140 13m20.132s 12/8/2019 11:37
7 神经兮兮 140 13m44.500s 11/23/2019 21:59
8 Sullivan 140 14m2.899s 12/20/2019 3:13
9 ZaToichi 140 14m17.515s 12/27/2019 19:37
10 fw6263 140 14m28.766s 12/15/2019 19:38

A post will be coming in general discussion that will look more at game balance. I will compare the final era 11 leaderboard to era 12.

I just finished era 11 analysis of 14,000 data points from the American Server (GR efficiency and just numerical data) using the final leaderboard for that era. I am working through era 12, only 1,000 data points per class are available through the API.

Here are some era 11 numbers for the America region.

Rank Barbarian Crusader Demon Hunter Monk Necromancer WitchDoctor Wizard
1 132 137 138 132 138 142 143
10 125 133 128 127 130 132 138
50 120 126 125 120 122 125 133
100 116 124 124 117 119 121 131
200 114 120 122 114 115 119 130
500 110 115 120 110 109 113 125
1000 107 110 117 105 103 109 122
1500 105 108 115 104 100 105 120
2000 103 105 115 101 95 103 117

A graphical representation of the above data.

[Album] Era 11 (Class GR Clears versus Rank)

A graphical representation of modified GR efficiency for era 11.

[Album] Class comparisons using Modified GR efficiency Era 11
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Averaging those top ten clears by class…

143.2 - Barbarian
148.9 - Crusader
136.5 - Demon Hunter
140.9 - Monk
134.8 - Necromancer
139.2 - Witch Doctor
141.1 - Wizard

So, in the interest of balance, why aren’t you on the Demon Hunter and Necromancer forums advocating for buffs using all your lovely tables and data to back it all up with, rather than once again only concentrating on Barbs?

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Because that’s not how balance (read: equality) works in his brain.

He also doesn’t make as much effort as he claims in calling for Crusader nerfs, nor did he when Wizards were steam rolling everything.

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Since my initial post was in the barbarian forum and I have mained a barbarian since patch 2.6.7 dropped, my initial post focused on barbarians. In response to your critique, I have now shown data for all classes. A post with a more comprehensive analysis will be made in general discussion.

Demon Hunters are very interesting. You may want to look at the end of era 11 table and bar graph. This class was “unaffected” by changes in era 12. To be top 2000 in the era 11 leaderboard, a DH would near to clear 115 which is 10 GRs more than all other classes except wizard that required a GR 117 to reach 2000 on their solo leaderboard.

I advocate for buffs to underperperforming classes and nerfs to overperforming classes. This included nerf to both wizards pre-patch 2.6.7 and crusaders post patch 2.6.7a. I and others such as Ulmaguest have advocated for crusader nerfs post patch 2.6.7a. Matthew Cederquist has already responded directly to this. Most likely, crusaders will be nerfed next patch. Matthew has also indicated that a couple of underperforming classes will be buffed.

In terms of Wizards stem rolling everything it in the past (and being nerfed as a result), it will be very interesting to see how the GR efficiency of several classes in era 12 compare to era 11 wizards.

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You may want to post it in the DH forum.
I’m sure they’ll be overjoyed that you’re considering giving them your analysis.

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Just wait for my 147 solo clear. Oh wait… according to this forum I won’t make it monkaS

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Hmm… :confused:

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Just a matter of motivation
This build only involves press escape to avoid lags, aids to play and unskilled, and
nearly no one is going for that escape menu gameplay, it is annoying as hell
Not sure i’ll have that much patience but whatever we’ll see. Sad i lost my 144 clear, it was red fallen wood into double cave xD, would rate it maximum 7/10 xD

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Dude don’t say things like that !, “barbarian experts” claim that WW is a complex build to play lmao.

I hope you return with your streamings they were really fun.

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@Meteorblade,

The thread with more comprehensive analysis of era 11 and era 12 is now in general discussion.

P.S. The top non-season/era 12 barbarian clear worldwide is now 146 @ paragon level 9477.

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ESC is annoying, but in China server, Esc gameplay are pretty common since Zodiac WW was introduced.

Also, a faster CPU (9900K or 3900x) with high frequency >=3200mhz RAM may help a bit. The screen won’t freeze, but UI may disappear (but it is still much better).

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Autobots Assemble!
just botters, no accomplishment or pride here

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for the love of pete NOOOOOOOOOO

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