Cheaters on the Leaderboards

Exactly. These goofballs all trying to gaslight you and others who notice shady things going on. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are or were botters trying to misdirect.

How do we know you are not cheating?

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They do exist, and that’s not what I said. Expecting them to win is naive. They can at the very best reduce the practice.

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So you want hackers to loop around the detection rules by sniffing them out and create cheats that doesn’t get detected by the system at the end of the day? It’s actually between the line of your words, not mine. I don’t think I misinterpret your intentions either.
Apparently the rigidity of the detection rulesets have higher priority than a decade old leaderboard of one title. Blizzard won’t allow the huge anti-cheat system that watch over multiple titles to be thrown around like that. At least, not because you can not get “your place” in the leaderboards of a decade old game. Mind you, that game is not even truly competitive; it’s just a state of your mind.

At any given time, you can go into his profile and playtime to be sure of that. He has around 2k paragon levels in current Season; which is not much playtime if you think about dedicated player profiles reaching 3-5k in a month.
How do we know you’re not cheating from an alt account and keep opening these kind of threads to announce banwaves? When you go into that territory, things get outta hand. Just appreciate your first thread ran its course, and did an impact but anti-hack team is struggling with more serious issues than botters.

You better do at this point, because this is going into an awkward territory. You have no idea what do you imply, or has that terrible mindset of only you and botters exist in this world.

New third party software for popular games can arrive packed with malware or P.U.P. because no one develops cheats for free at the end of the day. This is not charity work; third party softwares will cost you money or your privacy, especially if they’re not properly funded. Else, their course will be rather short anyway.

A web search about anti-cheat softwares and how it works would give you an idea but you rather complain instead of playing this game or doing your research.

Not even the best anti-cheat can reduce botters to zero. Don’t expect a simple software to fight for you; lest you’d be no different than a botter itself.
Frequent banwaves would miss new coming cheaters, and any prevalent attempt would only alert the community of botters to update their signature hashes, in a cat-and-mouse game. Reducing their power was the next best thing they could do and they went ahead and did it after taking down the most popular bot software.

Finally some recognition.

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Oh good lord… talk about reaching

To answer question, no I don’t cheat. Never saw a reason to do it, seems like if you cheat then are not really playing the game!!!

If u want proof, just look at clear video. Shows total clear and hours played at end. Not that many hours/dy avg. And, look at me run around lost in graveyard at end of conduit! If using hud, I do not have to open up map to figure out which way to go!

But, like you say, I don’t post video to get gratz, I do it to show that season theme is helping alot to lower bonus of cheating vs not cheating. Last season, cheater probably have almost 10000 paragon by this point, no way to compete. Much more level this season. So much gear + mats from visions, can get gg gear much more easy. I hit close to 100% perfect gear for Reakor barb around 100 hr mark in season.

Anyway, my rank 1 only last about 1 day, now back to rank 2.

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He is just mad because he is bad. And wants to blame it all on cheaters instead of accepting that he is bad. He will continue to accuse anyone who is higher rank than him as cheaters. Its a narcissistic trait. It rly is obv by now.
There is a paragon cap and alot of good ppl skipped or left this season before even trying to push. Couldnt be a easier season to get rank 1. That doesnt stop him from complaining cause he still isnt good enough.

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Lol “too much faith in humanity”… It is clear even with evidence that you can look up easily and a video provided you still sow doubt.

I agree, everyone except him and his clan (by extension of the ego) are within doubt. My theory is before this season he was boasting like finally the legit players can outrank the botters because cheaters dont have skill. OP played the first few weeks, was like 12-20 grifts behind some legit players, hit a grift wall, and starts blaming or sowing doubt about others for his own failings, and proceeds to play d4.

Nope, he continues to complain about a deadish game in a deadish season on a deadish forum, wich he isnt even playing in the most fair season up to date.

He needs to prove he isn’t a cheater before he complain about everyone else.

You gain my respect.
There haven’t been too many top tier legit players that can pull it off mid or late season regardless of what the these cheat supporting trolls say.
Yes the gap is less severe between cheat and legit with having a paragon cap.
Para caps should be a standard every season moving forward for multiple reasons.
Your success story is a direct result of implementation from the community feedback, to devs, rng, and obviously skill.
You will understand my direct frustration with the current anticheat system in D3 when the clears above you are obvious and repeat cheaters.
I haven’t taken a peak, but hopefully they are legit players capitalizing on the para cap and recent bans.

It is astonishing that it took this long for the devs to hear us when it came to handling cheaters, but at least something is being done, we just need more of it.

I think the paragon cap was more effective then stopping one site but it was sold as one season only.
I think keeping a cap with slight adjustments will do better for the future of D3 regarding chesters effectiveness.

Ban wave scale of D4 is drastically more dynamic than D3. Obviously ties to income streams. Its the reality of D3 whether you face it or not. Banning costs money and as a business, it’s not interested in up keeping it. The irony is botters buying new account, however cheap it maybe, contributes to ban wave budget to some degree.

Should we donate to anti cheat team for better ban waves in D3? I would, will you?

I think 2 banwave / season probably enough. First one, when they had it this season so far, encourage legit player to push lederboard. Second one, near end of season, mean no time for cheater to recover with new account. More than that, not really needed, not efficient use of company resource!!

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Also, got rank 1 back again!

Finally got Orek Dream that is actually good, first out of about 15 that has both conduit and power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJiAvEDNSUM

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Double gratz

Totally agree, 1 or 2 maybe depending on season length as im not sure but i think i heard or read seasons will be like 3 months long without the need of new season themes, someone correct me if i’m wrong. If its 1 banwave im also fine with that, when its done at like 2/3 of the season. Plus blizz needs to purge leaderboards so that accounts that dont login after banwave are removed from the leaderboards, otherwise its such a wasted effort for the hacks team.

Donate to the company that has profits in the billions? No.

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I think more then two banwaves is better because the bots run 24/7 and aren’t 100% caught. I have seen botters main accounts get banned, then they jump on their cookie bot alt and snag a top ranking spot.
We have seen two bans in a season in the past and there were still known cheaters on the front pages.
We needs bans frequent enough to keep the filthy cheaters out of the game and not just the leaderboards. The issue of cheating isn’t just limited to front page leaderboard bot clears, its also the use of maphacks, macros, scripts and the feeding of bounty bot mats to other main accounts. If I were to wager, I think the majority of bots in D3 are primarily used for bounty mats.

Agreed, the question isn’t can they police this game better, its why don’t they with the bountiful resources this billion dollar AAA company possess.

Wouldn’t it hurt sales of new D3 copies if ban waves were so frequent and efficient that botting stopped completely?

We gotta keep this thread alive :smiley:

Because there’s no gain to be had, monetarily, from spending more resources. At least I would imagine that being the primary reason.

The goal is elimination of cheaters completely.
Botters buying new accounts after they got banned ads revenue!

There is already a dedicated hacks team, no need to spend money on additional resources. There might be financial gain with taking down cheat sites legally.

If you want the team to do more, it would require more resources.

I don’t really see how that would work.

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