There’s no online mode?!
I know you meant “offline mode is not happening.” 
Not that I am particularly against it, but WoW is literally selling lvling boosts.
HOTS tend to make each new hero overpowered in the beginning to encourage sales.
But I do agree that Blizzard is much, much better about this than some companies.
And I have just about zero fear that they will sell actual power (including lvling boosts) in D4.
The market has luckily changed somewhat. There has been a reaction against P2W on pc/consoles. And we are starting to see more legal reaction against lootbox gambling too.
The fact they sell leveling boosts shows that they don’t know how to make leveling enjoyable and hold power. They should just have no levels and let you have heroes that you gear out and just remove leveling entirely.
It takes weeks to level otherwise. Normally the boost takes you to the start of the current expansion, so 10 levels below cap. You still have to do the current content.
The equivalent would be a boost in D3 to level 60 when RoS came out. That lets people start at the new content with friends who already play.
At the end of the expansion they do offer boosts to max level, but that still does not get you gear or anything.
Leveling in WoW takes weeks…so I get it. Some people would rather pay 60 dollars instead of spending all those hours leveling.
It is not exactly that. The leveling process is fun and rewarding most of the time - as it should be in an RPG. The problem is that the game has been out for 15 years and there are 120 levels, not the original 60. The sheer time investment is overwhelming for new players who just want to jump in game and play with friends who already chars.
That boost to the start of the current expansion eliminates that barrier. They can play just the new stuff, instead of having to slog along for weeks.
They DO realize this is an issue though…and are totally revamping character levels and a ton of other systems next expansion.
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That excuse could be used about anything.
“The reason we sell legendaries for D4 is because the gearing experience is just not enjoyable enough”.
Again, I am fine with WoW lvling boosts. But they are power boosts.
Not so different from XP potions and what not in some other games.
I fundamentally disagree about lvling. Lvling is fun. Sure, not so fun the 10th time, but that is fair enough.
Yep, sounds like a big improvement. Mostly the ability to lvl through whatever content you want, making it less repetitive.
What if they sell legendaries and runes to the chinese market since they’re more than fine with cheating. If you look at dell computers over there they promoted that their PC’s could handle more cheats and aimbots than any competitors there. It’s a difference of culture there where they view it if someone can do it that it might as well be you.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/11/17226064/dell-china-laptop-pubg-cheating
Speaking of which I came across my first botter in classic wow last night and their warlocks pet’s name was in chinese. Kind of proving my point about the mentality of cheating is fine there.
I would certainly not try to claim anyone have a ‘culture of cheating’ - relatively few people can easily end up giving a wrong impression about the many.
I am luckily not directly affected by what game companies are doing on the Chinese market, but I do think it is a shame, and it must suck for all the Chinese players who do not think cheating and buying power is a great game experience.
I bet there are a lot who do not. But when you have a 1 billion market, there is probably a ‘niche’ for everything.
Well they kind of have one. They have a state sponsored program to steal technology secrets from every government in the world.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies
Basically my point is to all the people saying we’re all cheaters for wanting an offline mode is basically being racist towards chinese players.
I’m sure you along with anyone else that goes to this forum knows china is known for making knockoffs of existing products and IP’s.
Levelling boosts ate not P2W especially since you only get to the start of the current expansion. I do agree those heroes are OP, but they get nerfed immediately and are still close to a 50% win rate.
You made a post earlier in this thread about the other thread, with 3.5K responses. The number of responses is irrelevant. You can see clearly thanks to the new forum that the mass majority of posts were made by the same 10-15 people. A few of which are responsible for 200-250+ posts by themselves. All of which I can promise you is just regurgitated points repetitively saying the same thing. It’s an illusion of support.
Also, keeping in mind that even that thread, which has been going for nearly 2 months now, barely has over 16k total views, of those views barely 200+ people have liked the OP. I would imagine if down voting still existed, both of these threads would show a much more accurate representation of how well your stance is resonating. The fact that you only have 5 up to this point is telling.
You already have gotten your answer, you simply do not like it. No amount of stomping your feet or holding your breath will change it. You are unlikely to get an offline mode. Move on with your life.
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Well, do you want to play with mods? If you answer yes, and mods are unsupported, then you’re cheating.
Why not? Overwatch is only cosmetics, WoW hasn’t really crossed the border into pay-to-win, Heroes behaved like any other MOBA, and Hearthstone hasn’t really gone beyond what any card game does (Wizards and MTG Arena, on the other hand…).
Or there’s the fact that WoW is on, what, it’s 7th expansion?
They’re revamping things anyway and have always cut the experience needed once expansions are no longer current.
Why is leveling in Diablo 3 trash and why does the gear you get while leveling not matter at end game.
If you’re trying to say WoW leveling is bad for the same reasons… well, no. Sorry. WoW leveling isn’t really bad, as a matter of fact, there’s just a lot of leveling to do. That’s why they compress it a bit and offer boosts.
And it’s worth noting you can’t boost to the maximum level of the upcoming expansion.
It is really bad in fact it’s so boring that people don’t even bother to do it and exploit to bypass the boring grind just like people do on D3 but on wow it lacks any sense of progression. Whereas in d3 you can get to max level so fast that people see no reason to complain about D3’s leveling grind since you can bypass it with a hand full of rifts.
There is no way you’re saying this in good faith. Wanting to play with mods and actually playing with mods are distinct, and wanting the devs to reconsider their position on allowing mods is not the same as sending them bombs in the mail unless they cave in.
If your wife wants a divorce and you ask her to reconsider and to talk things through, that’s not the same as locking her in the basement. I don’t really know how to restate this to make it clearer.
You’re nitpicking to the point of uselessness here.
It’s a moot point, anyway, since the game is going to be online. We’ll never know who really does use mods because they won’t be an option.
I don’t know how one can go from accusing people of “wanting to cheat,” on the basis of a deliberate misconstrual several times over in many separate threads only to tell me I’m nitpicking like you should be free to sling mud at whoever and whenever it suits your narrative. People are asking for mods to be allowed principally so that they can mod without cheating.
“Pot should be legal.” “Oh, you just want to break the law.” “??? If I wanted to break the law, it’d be in my interest for it to stay illegal?”
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I haven’t seen hardly anyone asking for modding support. All I’ve seen is assumptions that offline means modding.
Eh, yeah, carried over from the other thread to be fair, but if you substitute in “Offline mode,” the same argument carries.
In fact it only strengthens my argument, because the subset of people who don’t even want to mod the game are asking for way less.
Leveling in D3 does not give any real feel of permanent character progression. That is true.
Gear from leveling being used at end game? That is really against the point of most RPG games. You don’t use your childhood mini bow when you are a full fledged archer. The whole point is to feel progression and power gain, which means gear is replaced by newer gear you earned. Earned being a key word that makes an RPG have more depth.
Games where the gear you find while early in game matters tend to be other genres where you find or gain certain items you need to finish the game. They are not games made to be replayable for long periods of time.
Nobody exploits anything to level in WoW. Nobody. You can’t do it. There are no in-game leveling bugs to exploit. There are some in-game mechanics that were put in there on PURPOSE to help with leveling, such as the Darkmoon Faire buff and Heirloom Equipment. The only way to “cheat” on leveling in WoW is to let someone else play your account - which if they detect it gets you suspended or banned. Most people don’t bother trying to cheat seeing as you can buy a boost that gets you to the expansion start - so you only have 10 more levels of the new content to go.
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