I don’t typically mind it when there is a botter inside my public bounties lobby. Their bot usually does the job, gets the bounties done, and we all move on. Occasionally though, their bot gets clearly stuck somewhere in a loop. Does Blizzard not have mechanisms to detect and punish these players?
Anybody that is over 5k paragon in the season bots. Ain’t nobody playing THAT much Diablo 3. If you’ve leveled up your paragons to 3k+ in one season, then you know how steep the climb is. It doesn’t really bother me that they will bot their way up - but to what purpose, why? And again, does Blizzard not have mechanisms in place to detect and punish these players?
QoL cheats like maphacks, or mass inventory salvaging by the press of a button, or mass gambling with the press of a button - these people are just annoying to play with. They are like crackheads on this game. They want to go SO FAST that there’s literally no merchant time even after 3 consecutive GRs. I know because I’ve played with some of you guys, and I won’t even call any names here, but yall suck to play with. It makes the game feel less fun to play it that way. There’s a certain point where IDGAF to go that quickly and efficiently. Gaming should be fun first.
And again, is there no way for Blizzard to detect and punish these players?
For bot detection the is The Warden. It’s monitoring system built in the game specifically to monitor the usage of bots and other cheats and to flag accounts to be ready when they do a banwave.
I’m not an expert of any kind of software but I think any third party software that reads RAM used by D3 should be detectable by The Warden. So maphacks like THUD should be detectable.
Scripts for mass salvage or mass gambling are much tougher to detect.
Sure, but what constitutes “fun” is entirely subjective.
Say you play 5 hours a day on average, which is by no means an impossible number to reach even with a full time job, let alone if you don’t have one or gaming is how you make your money, that would be 660 hours this season so far. That’s plenty to reach paragon 5k.
I have to agree with Kargon here… I wouldn’t go that far. I mean, I’m your best example. I have 3.2k SC and some hundred on HC… completed the Altar (well, nearly, I’m still lacking a primal to unlock the last potion in HC) on both modes and I really wasted a lot of time to get my second Staff of Herding (the HC one literally took me a full day to get that damn gemstone dropping)…
Now, that’s me going solo only and I’m lazy as can be. If I would dedicate some hours per day and play less relaxing and more efficiently, then it’s not too far fetched that I would have reached those 5k by now - well in SC and in this season at least.
I will try to reach 4K in SC and at least 2K on HC while the season lasts… I hope it lasts long. Because I don’t think S29 will be as fun at all. Unless they do something really crazy like Ethereals and 4th Cube slot and Soul Shards combined… coming with double goblins and double bounties and all the non-dps stuff from the altar. Then, maybe…
A treat to watch. That’s why you keep an eye on your teammates in public runs. There are still leeches and people who deliberately afk in public bounty runs.
They do but it works like a gizmo, it is called Warden to watch over many different Blizzard titles. It activates at random intervals, collects information on clients’ background silently, detects then records their findings to hibernate again. If it were to ban at the occassion of such detection, you would only cause a panic on the botter/cheat community to make them update the software and chase begins again.
Botting software itself doesn’t introduce themselves to other programs as “I’m a botting/cheat software” if you could have guessed that.
Anti-cheat software has to identify digital signatures (ie. md5 hash) and each update to the said cheat software (bot or aimbot) can change this in a whim. So they aim to hit it big and at once to catch so many as they can in a single banwave. Botting players are fed by a blackmarket and they have their own community, last thing you want is influencing their next move or motives.
It’s been 4 months and beyond since season 28 started, so I wouldn’t trust them to be legit but I wouldn’t call them out outright either. Dedicated streamers usually hit up 3k easily by the first few weeks by playing around their clans but player profiles are not limited to them.
Those 5k plvl players, could have been playing this with close friends, but even then they supposed to get a burn out long ago given how steep and repetitive this game can be. You can’t really tell after this point, nor you should care.
Maphacks are definitive cheats according to the former game director of Diablo 3, but I don’t remember anything about mass inventory salvage and gambling macros. Perhaps they are gray area and if human input is weighted, they may have chose to not touch those accounts. I have seen streamers use such mass gamble macros, which are simple auto-clicks that can be arranged with any modern gaming keyboard or mice for example. You may have get frustrated but we wouldn’t know what is on Blizzard’s list for sure.
Most seasons I’ll finish off somewhere between 1k to 1.4k paragons.
This season, I’ve not only surpassed that range, and not only have I surpassed my NS paragon (which is under 2k) but I’ve exceeded it by almost 500 paragon.
Sometimes truth is negative. How do you feel he’s taking things out of proportion?
Several reasons why people hide profiles. First off, there is nothing anyone else needs from someone’s profile. Second, it helps to deter stalkers, even though this isn’t foolproof because many hardcore stalkers will do anything they can to “research” you. Third, trolls love to try and find or invent something from someone’s profile to try and dismiss their points, even if they are 100% correct.
Maybe you’ve never played with the type of folk that don’t even give you an extra second to sip the water on your desk? I’m a pretty fast player - but these guys are using 3rd party software to go unimaginably faster than a human can or reasonably should. Maybe I want some whiskey before we start up the next round? There’s not even time to pour a shot of whiskey before the ACCEPT box is in my face again after merchanting as quick as possible.
Maybe you are one of those people using 3rd party software and you are upset on being called out? Maybe not, given your paragon levels are similar to mine.
Do you feel better about seeing my toons now, is your temper tantrum over? Can you maybe stay on topic?
The point is - why isn’t Blizzard more actively banning these folks. It is plainly obvious that they are using 3rd party software that is against the ToS.
Warden can be likened to an antivirus app. It can only detect what it knows about (similar to how antivirus definitions work). And like the virus industry, the video game cheating industry is always producing new cheats that Warden doesn’t know about yet.
Secondly, the system isn’t designed to instantly smite those who are cheating. Instead, Bliz collects data, investigates the cheat(s), learns how it works, figures out how to break it, investigates the cheaters, then deals with the them in waves (which we do periodically see, this season in included). It’s more effective this way because it helps to obfuscate what/when/how/why a cheater was actioned. That in turn makes it more difficult for the app authors to figure out what specifically tripped the anticheat system, and thus makes it harder for the app authors to recode their apps to avoid detection.
That said, for me the glaring issue with D3 is that when attempting to report cheating, there’s no “cheating” report category.
If someone is looking for my latest comments, they can use the search tool, no problem, they will find them all.
If someone wants to see my web profile or a character, or he can use the correct URL, or he can ask me, I will not hesitate to give the link.
And I happened to share some character profiles myself, to give examples
