what does the other side mean?
In this case it was discord channel of well known bot software, that is free to join for everyone.
I don’t think they have problems with evaluation aka whether a program is a bot software or not. They have problems with detecting all the stuff that runs on a platform and the ToS might not actually allow them to do it at 100%, I have no idea about the latter.
So, there are 3 stages:
- Legal rights
- Detection
- Evaluation
Publicly sold cheating programs are the most easy to evaluate when they run at a place you have the legal rights to scan and detect.
NS is pretty much corrupt beyond any point. The only way to fix it is a direct reset of everyone’s paragon to 0 or buff to whatever X value no one has reached yet. This in combination with a new anti-botting system will give new purpose to NS.
But simply an ordinary ban wave is useless at this point for NS.
I don’t know where I read this but I thought this was illegal to monitor someones computer like this? Don’t get me wrong I’m totally against botting but I thought privacy laws prevented monitoring running processes on your computer.
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That is why you have to agree to their ToS before installing the client. If you don’t agree no one would legally scan your system.
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But law defines what can and want can not be written in ToS. At least thats what some Germans told me before.
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Yes. It’s law > ToS.
Said otherwise, ToS have to comply with country law first.
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So if law strictly forbids something it can’t be allowed by ToS.
Yes, it can’t. So, you will always have cheating in that specific region, which is fine as long as we have multiple other “pure” servers we could play in.
Here, comes the next question: Does it matter where the server is or does it matter only the nationality of the player?
Said otherwise, if one is from a country forbidding ToS to intervene with system scan, can one play at a server out of this country with ToS allowed to intervene?
It would be logical the server location to overrule the nationality since if one is not German, but goes to Germany and plays such potential game he would have to be allowed access to “pure” server…
This would mean they can just put the servers in countries, which are fine with their ToS and we should be good. I won’t mind 10 more ms for a bot-free server.
RAM memory that you need to scan is on client PC. It is not possible to detect what someone is using on his PC if no data is transferred to server.
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Only files located in the D3 folder. Also there is no logging for the D3 servers, unlike WoW.
Thats why they run rampant and only a few get pinched every so often. Every bot ban is the result of an extensive manual investavation.
Are you sure about this. It sounds terrible.
We need somethhing like this:
https://s3.dexerto.com/articles/overwatch-anti-cheat.jpg
If not possible in D3 than in D4. Instant ban, same second when it is detected.
Diablo 3 is super good testing field for new anti cheat system that could be used in Diablo 4.
Coming @Blizzardsoonish*
I meant would they count the server location or PC location for the appliance of particular ToS.
To prove someone did something against ToS they need to scan files on his PC (not in all cases). You apply the laws of country where files are located.
If we have cloud based gaming one day, that might change 
GDPR is structured differently. It is protecting individual. And you apply GDPR no matter where he is located at, if he is resident of EU. I am not 1000% sure on this topic. I tell you how I understand things. ToS can be in line with GDPS and allow Blizzard to ban any EU citizen.
GDPR in general is good a thing because it takes away power from Corporations and empowers the people, for much more serious topics than gaming.
Yeah, but ToS is agreement between user and company. Everytime we change country the game should ask us to comply with new ToS then.
It would be like drinking allowed in 18+ and you are fine at 19, but you go to country with 21+ and you are not there. Seems right.
That would pretty much solve the issue.
This seems like a global EU law meaning its:
GDPR > country law > ToS
It’s getting complicated.
So, theoretically if GDPR have enough power one could apply say a special ToS overruling his country law.
Yes because it is Regulation. EU Regulations are different than EU Directives. When Regulation is adopted is valid for whole EU without need of “transferring” it into your national legal framework. On other hand Directives are transferred into national legal framework.
But does it have enough power specifically stated in it somehow?
If it has then the companies could scan 100% of files when we agree to ToS.
That is exactly why it is so important. Possible penalties are really high.
Yes, the more I think this would be the case indeed.
ToS would need to just comply with GDPR for EU.
And this would be good news if they have finally solved cheating detection. Even if it is for 99.9% of cheating player base.