If the best build is Typhon…
the 6 set vs the LOD build…
which is Stronger ?
Hi I will try to answer according to my experience with wizard as I had the intention to asks the same question.
First why are you wanting to play wizard vs other classes? Wizards are not as tanky as Barb or crusaders they are often requiring high paragon for armor, and are complexe in rotation.
Now, this is my comprehension of wizards so maybe a more dedicated player could argue but it worths what it worths. I cannot add weblinks but go to icyveins for help.
You have Firebird, Tal Rasha, Delsere Magnus Opus, Vyr Hydra and no sets build Legacy of Nightmare.
Firebirds is a build that requieres you to be able to burn enemies but not imidiatly kill them so damage could add up. So if you kill elites too fast I guess your bonus won’t be maximal. Works better at high paragon for the speed.
Then you have DMO. This build is about Slow time skill. I like this type of build for story mode or bounties but not for gr. But still if you like the rotation of casting slowtime then black hole to group then destroy with shock pulse and energy blasts it’s for you. I think this is the wizardest set because of all the spell you can cast. But not beginner freindly
Or you could play Tal rasha. This is a fun choice that turns around explosive blasts rune. It could also be twist with meteor or archon. I would recommend this set.
You also have Vyr. This sets could be very well mixed with tal rasha btw. Vyr is the archon build very fast with teleport mixed with the chantodo duo weapons. Rotation is easy. Top build good for everything. I prefer it to Tal but it’s a personal choice.
Hydra is a new set I have not played it but it seems very cool. It’s the hydra sets so evolves around the skill of the same name with serpents sparker cube. It looks like a mix of wiz and maraudeur I think but unsure. Seems cool. But is more demanding to activates skills before charging. Yeah it looks more like a dh maraudeur
Playing in the current seasonal. Lod hyra is much stronger and more reliable on defence/damage. While in game just hit SHIFT+L and look see at the top few wizard builds and u can see what ones are strongest 
I’m not sure I’d agree with much stronger. It’s slightly stronger, but Vyr’s is very competitive. And both builds are extremely tanky. Vyr’s is probably tankier while in Archon, but LoD Hydra is obviously tankier than an out of Archon Vyr’s.
Last time I checked, the top wizard clear in NA S20 was actually Vyr’s. Although I think EU has some higher LoD Hydra clears. NA tends to be a bit behind most of the time, EU seems to be more competitive.
The big difference, if you’re fishing for a high end clear, is going to be consistency. Vyr’s is more fishy than LoD Hydra IMO. For a high end clear with Vyr’s, you really need certain mob types that give the perfect mix of progression and high stack count. LoD Hydra should be more consistent for most players. The average player will probably have better results with LoD Hydra, but an experienced Vyr’s player who is willing to fish a ton should have decent results with Vyr’s too.
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My bad i was thinking he was refering to the lod hydra vs the new wiz hydra set. (Im not on the up and up with the names of all these builds lol)
Whoops, no, you’re totally right. His question was actually about Typhon’s vs. LoD.
For some reason I thought he was asking about LoD Hydra vs. Vyr’s. My mistake haha, you were on point.
I would like to hear from let say dedicated players who has played this game a lot more than me(not that hard) what is your ranking of wizard sets taking not only gr but also bounties and rift oriented gameplay. Which build maybe a top 3 would you suggest. I asks because i would like different point of view that icyveins as not everyone likes the same gameplay.
GR pushing
Best: Vyr’s or LoD Hydra
Decent: Typhon’s
Okay: Meteor Shower (LoD or Tal’s), Frozen Orb (LoD or DMO)
GR speedfarming
Best: Vyr’s
Decent: Hydra
Okay: Meteor Shower, Frozen Orb w/ Aether Walker (Frozen Orb is good for running lower and faster, but the DPS falls off in higher tiers. Meteor Shower can’t move as fast, but is okay for running a bit higher but slower)
T16 rifts
Best: Vyr’s w/ Messerschmidt’s, Typhon’s Hydra w/ Aether Walker
Decent: LoD Hydra w/ Aether Walker, Frozen Orb w/ Aether Walker
Okay: Meteor Shower (casting delay, Deathwish/Etched Sigil multiplier delay, and difficulty fitting Aether Walker make Meteor Shower slower for T16 rifts)
Fun if you just want to mess around: Explosive Blast, Energy Twister
Bounties
Best: Frozen Orb w/ Aether Walker
Decent: Vyr’s (w/ Aether Walker or Messerschmidt’s, but either way not great for bosses), Typhon’s (w/ Aether Walker, hydra not attacking certain stationary mobs you’ll encounter during bounties hinder hydra here though)
Vaults
Best: LoD Frozen Orb
Good: LoD Hydra
Ideally you want max Gold Find + a Broken Crown. LoD makes it easier to fit Goldskin + Broken/Leoric’s Crown. Frozen Orb beats LoD Hydra, at least in non-season, because you can fit both Leoric’s Crown + Emerald and Broken Crown. LoD Hydra can only run one of those since you’ll want Magistrate. Also easy to fit Sun Keeper / Devil’s Tongue with Frozen Orb. Possible with Hydra too. But Frozen Orb is just the easiest way to get max GF + Broken Crown and still have enough DPS to kill efficiently on T16.
Anything that isn’t Vyr’s, Hydras, Meteor Shower, or Frozen Orb (primary builds) Explosive Blast, Energy Twister, or Manald Heal (middle tier builds) isn’t really worth using.
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When you say frozen orb w walker is it tal or dmo or lon ?
If you have the gear for it, LoD Frozen Orb w/ Aether Walker plays the smoothest.
DMO Frozen Orb isn’t great for speedfarming because you need to drop bubbles constantly and that slows you down a bit. For DMO speedfarming I strongly recommend you either run the Time Shell rune or run Crown of the Primus in the cube to get the rune that way. The shorter cooldown helps with dropping bubbles quicker when you need them. If you aren’t running Primus, the shorter cooldown is worth more than the other runes for speedfarming IMO.
Tal’s Frozen Orb with Aether Walker is better for farming than DMO Frozen Orb since you don’t have to worry about dropping bubbles and you can keep 4 stack Tal’s up by constantly teleporting and tossing out Magic Missiles/Shock Pulses and Orbs, but being forced into Calamity means AP is an issue.
LoD Frozen Orb doesn’t have to worry about stack mechanics and has better AP management (can run Wormhole rune unlike Tal’s, has an open skill slot for Arcanot if desired, can slot in Pride’s Fall very easily). From a farming perspective, it’s better on every front than Tal’s or DMO Frozen Orb.
The only time I’d run Tal’s or DMO Frozen Orb over LoD is if it’s early in the season and you don’t have quite enough ancients for LoD yet. if you have the gear for LoD, it’s the best option for Frozen Orb. Especially since Squirt’s was added. Pre-Squirt’s, Tal or DMO FO had a DPS advantage since they could run Focus/Restraint or Endless Walk. With Squirt’s now, that gap has closed, LoD FO can match the DPS of Tal’s or DMO FO. And has advantages on other fronts.
And I prefer LoD over LoN. With LoN your cube slot pretty much has to be Halo of Karini, which means you can’t run any other rings. LoD means you can wear some combination of CoE/Avarice Band/SoJ/Unity on top of Karini. It’s generally worth giving up the gem slot and running LoD (+Trapped + Zei’s) to get two more ring options.