Hi all, Luciocandido is back, ggs to all.
Lol bug pack for 132? Season already did 134 with bug pack and half the paragon.
That clear sucks and is very underwhelming, bugs aside itād be Rank 5 world (two bug pack season clears with 134/133, EU 133, China 132 in a faster time). DarkPatatorās gameplay is much more impressive than any bug with R6 which is the stronger build.
Raekor doesnāt need game bugs to clear 132 or 133. Maybe with some more game bugs you can climb higher. 
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Here is Archās 128 with SS
128 SS clear
I know that Guy closes 134. I know my barb dont need bugged pack, but im not pushing. Where are u on game Noob? Stop playing?
Whit charge build i try fews 131, open good progression but dont spam Boss whit good pylon.
Fishing for a game bug is the same as pushing, just way less impressive because the clear is a bug, not you, the player.
Not sure why anyone would record themselves abusing a game bug and then posting a video about it.
Maybe other Barbs donāt need bugged elites to clear, but it looks like you do, hence the video.
When seasonal people posted 133 and 134 videos showing the same bug (which they fished for specifically like you) no one was impressed. Same sitation here, thereās no gameplay.
Iām not sure what you expected. Videos like these are demonstrations of a game bug, not a GR close.
Acho completamente desnecessĆ”rio de sua parte vir aqui com esse tipo de comportamento. Uma pena que da sua parte nĆ£o houve consideraĆ§Ć£o a mim, pois eu nĆ£o teria feito isso caso fosse o contrĆ”rio. NĆ£o dirija a palavra a mim, pois a partir de hoje o excluirei daqui.
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I am not sure what that means but at any rate, color me unimpressed. Hereās more bug pack in action. Atleast this 134 is impressive because itās very low paragon and done in season, but still just a bug nonetheless. 
You canāt post bug videos then act upset when people tell you itās a bug and nothing more.
With flavor i dont think hota is the strongest build anymore ,technically can play 8elite cond on silver spire ,and get 2min speed 1min power on a boss. Already spawned 8min choker on 135, and it wasnt even spire/wood/battlefield
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Hi Dark, i will try more whit IK+RK+flavor to test. On 131 i open 4 minutes, but dont spam a good boss and pylon. I go to 133 to test.
Its a dream, heheheheh.
Bug pack or no, itās still a good clear. I think a little more leeway is in order. Sure, the bug pack can be seen as an exploit, but so can wall-charging. When all is said and done, one still has to play the build accordingly, minimize deaths, sync cycles, and identify opportunities. We can disagree, but I donāt think we need to disrespect each other over clear videos.
As for whether Vile Charge has overtaken R6 HOTA, I look forward to the 135 clears that prove it! Good luck on the pushes, yāall!
Iāll try to get the OP updated this week!
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I disagree and think bug pack clears shouldnāt be posted. I would even go as far as to argue against R6 hota as well but that would most likely fall on deaf ears (blind eyes?). I donāt think it is disrespectful to call out using exploits for a clear. To each their own though.
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I have to agree with Free. I am not a fan of the bug pack or wall charging which is why I donāt do either but to each their own. But I donāt see how wall charging can be acceptable and not a bug pack.
My friend free, unfortunately sometimes some people make unnecessary comments, but patience, each one speaks what he wants. Particularly I donāt waste my time arguing anymore, I just stop referring to the person and thatās it, life that goes on.
I will agree with this! I would also argue on the premise that neither should be consider a legit clear worthy of video postings.
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I agree with Ulma and Dartok on this one. Sure both elements of these clears (wall charging and bug packs) are in the game but I would argue they arenāt really in the spirit of the game. I like watching videos in this thread to see lottery maps coupled with well executed play. Watching layers of borderline exploits utilized with a build that isnāt fun to play doesnāt strike me as archival worthy.
Somewhat related, these sorts of clears have also had a negative effect on barbarians as a whole as they are always used as exhibit A for the small army of trolls that pop out of the woodwork whenever any buff for the class is proposed.
āLook, this low paragon barb did a 130 clear they are fine lulzā
Ultimately itās just my opinion on this but if I could I would have an animated gif of the GoT Septa Unella shame belling any clears that take advantage of these mechanics.
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Can someone explain to me what a ābug packā is? never heard of it before
Watch the video provided. If the elite is handled correctly you unlimited trash will spawn.
It looks like some people have a problem with facts. Itās not about ādisrespectā. You upload a video of a bug, people will call it a bug, which is what it is. Again I am not sure what you were expecting. If I uploaded the same bugged pack I would not expect anything different - it just is what it is. Donāt upload a game bug then deny reality and try to pass it off as something else.
Not sure why some people have such a hard time with facts. Those videos are showing a game bug in action, not really a clear. DarkPatatorās 133 is impressive, he didnāt have infinite progression handed to him on one spotdue to a bug. The 132? Not really.
I can upload a video of a bug and Iām fine with people saying itās a bugā¦ because thatās what it is. Anyone can upload the same pack and Iāll say the same. Itās bugged.
To put into perspective how irrelevant the clear is, hereās another player showing the same game bug, 2 tiers higher (GR 134) with half the paragon, in Season. There is no difference between these players skill-wise, they just fished for a bugged pack. Except maybe this guy is better at playing bugs, I guess. You could upload GR 136, 138, or whatever you want with this pack and it would make no difference.
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Thatās not really the point.
No one claims the bug pack is, in fact, not a bug. It is. And using it to clear a GR is, without a doubt, an exploit. But the player still has to work to exploit the bugāstill has to play the build properly, have the skill and know-how to stay alive and manage mobs, and still has to kill the RG. R6 isnāt an easy build. None of this is, even with the help of the bug pack, simple. Itās much easier with the bug pack since it guarantees, if played properly, a clear off a single floor, but it isnāt as simple as walking into a GR, seeing a bug pack, and automatically closing.
My point is that itās fine to call it what it is: a clear accomplished with the help of an exploitable bug. But the way in which we do that doesnāt have to be so hostile.
That said, while Iāll be adding it to the OP, Iāll be marking it as an exploit clear (and will do the same for Huldaās). Iād like to see folks forget the bug pack and push without it.
And Iād like to see more clear videos from everyone!
That was weird, so its an elite pack that just constantly spawns trash?
I always thought summoned trash didnāt count towards progression.
Is this bannable then? since people are comparing it to the Wall-Charge.