New Ryzen 3000 series CPUs hit the market on 7/7/2019 along with new Radeon graphics cards. Anyone considering an upgrade of CPU, graphics card, or both?
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You’re definitely gonna need it to play this
Sorry I don’t want or need to play an ARPG on the toilet. I have the web sudoku app. and that is plenty of brain stimulation while making a large deposit.
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I recently replaced my R7 1700x with an R7 3700x. I wasn’t planning on getting it so early, but a friend wanted to buy my 1700x.
There have been some headaches along the way… The Linux/Destiny 2 RdRand bug with Ryzen 3000 CPUs still isn’t fixed, which bothers me since I’ve been enjoying playing Destiny 2 with my son. Additionally, my M.2 NVMe drive wasn’t recognized by Ryzen 3000 CPUs (Gigabyte X370 Gaming 5). Thankfully I had a spare SATA SSD with an OS on it that I could use (The latest BIOS from Gigabyte fixed the M.2 issue).
Some other folks had major issues with BIOS updates for the older X370 and X470 boards, so it might be good to just wait a few more months for some more stable BIOS releases.
As for performance in D3, the 3700x is noticeably better than my 1700x in both single player and multiplayer (roughly 15% more frames). The actual experience in single player is the same if I ignore the FPS (if I had a 144hz monitor, I think it would be noticeable, but not sure).
The experience in multiplayer is noticeably smoother in the heavier action. I think this is attributable to the significant gains in the single thread performance of 3rd gen Ryzen, but that’s just a guess.
Setting aside external factors, I was happy with my 1700x and now have a PC that can’t play Destiny. In the future, I know I’ll be happy with the sale of my 1700x and the upgrade to the 3700x, but right now I don’t feel like it was worth the hassle.
P.S. I have a Sapphire Vega 64 Nitro+ GPU with a beefy cooler that runs nice and quiet. I don’t plan on replacing it for some years to come.
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On the CPU side not really,my 1600x still serves me well enough.
On the GPU side tho,I might grab a RX 5700 later the year when the prices settle down a bit and the better aftermarket models are out ‘Sapphire preferably’.
Currently using a RX 570 which is alright but since I’ve upgraded to a 2560x1080 Ultra Wide monitor I could use more GPU power.
Will see how it goes in a few months then I will decide what to get.
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When i buy my new PC in the future, i will be switching to an AMD CPU rather than my usual Intel ones. That is unless Intel pull their thumbs out of their arses and get their 10/12nm architecture into production with good performance.
I hear AMD are currently way ahead and leading the game with their new CPUs. Intel might be in serious trouble from what i hear, having over-invested into their 14nm technology. They have some catching up to do now if they want to get back in the lead.
I’m also looking forward to news about AMD’s upcoming high-end Navi GPUs, which i’m hoping will be awesome. Things have been shook-up recently in the PC market.
Do u guys realized that D3 is only a single thread , single core applications ? Having gobs of cores does not matter from a cpu POV . What matters is the frequency of the first core or where the processor affinity is running D3 . I would overclock just the first core as high as possible . Invest in a Mid tier to high end gpu . And the best bang for your buck performance enhancements specifically for D3 is install a fast SSD .
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I want to change over to AMD when I get a new PC. I’m holding off for now, cause I’m pretty sure conusmer AMD cpus will change to a LGA socket in the near future and there are no PCIE gen 4 GPUs. And I think first gen pcie 4 GPUS will be so power hungry, it probably won’t be worth buying for a few more frames per second.
Most people out there, that try to build a computer and go way over board. They think they need a computer that will heat the living room.
Show me a game out there that really needs 6 cores & 12 threads to run it. Show me a game that you need more than 8 gbs of memory. Show me a game that you need a video card with more than 4 gbs of memory.
On the SSD yes it is nice to have one. But all my games run off of a 10,000 rpm WD Raptor. I have no lag and no slow load times. People spend to much money on a computer to run a video game.
You only really need a i5 cpu with 4 cores to run any game out there. With 8gbs of memory & a 4gb video card.
You bring up a good point, one that favors Ryzen 3000. I just ran a quick single thread comparison between my new 3700x and the 1800x. The results show a 32% increase in single thread performance over my 1st gen Ryzen CPU, which is quite substantial.
Your comment about not needing gobs of cores for gaming is accurate, and if gaming is the only intended use for the CPU, then the R5 3600 is a great option (don’t pay extra for the 3600x, you only get about 1-2% more performance).
Not in the slightest
I would love to upgrade to a 3700x. I do much more than just game, including running multiple VMs. Win-10 is terrible IMO. I’ve seen D3 sitting above 4GB of RAM while gaming for about 2.5 hours. When there are many other apps. running (not VM’s) a 16GB system can show less then 2GB free/available. This can translate into lots of slow downs.
Some folks will never encounter this kind of behavior because they don’t keep 10+ apps open while gaming (again not VM’s). I know that might sound kind of crazy, but if you are running an 8-core/16-threads CPU, with 16GB of RAM, one should be able to have: multiple Word docs, Excel spreadsheets, a few browser windows, notepad, battlet net launcher, D3 and/or SC-2, a PDF document, and 1-3 explorer folder windows running without having any slow down issues. When Wn-10 shows less than 5GB available, it starts to behave like its struggling to keep up demands placed upon it.
I can do this in Linux without performance issues; even with 12+ browser windows open with multiple tabs (research), while having a game running in the foreground.
You might need to if you get the chronic pooies.
I’ve had that once or twice…it wasn’t pretty.
I have no idea what chronic or infrequent pooies is.
AM4 will last until at least 2020. You’d be waiting for a while.
The new RX 5700 series run on PCIe 4.0.
Reviews have shown they are just as power efficient as the Nvidia cards they are competing against, namely the 2060 through to 2070 Super. Not because of PCIe, it’s that AMD have finally churned out a good GPU architecture.
Are you still playing games from like 2012 (besides D3)? Plenty of modern AAA games can easily eat up 4GB of video memory if you play games at 1440p+ and higher settings.
Not true about RX 5700. They are still pcie gen3 cards. Pcie 4 slots are just backward compatible. Meaning you can use any GPU currently in the market.
The RX 5700 series clearly have PCIe 4.0 capabilities. Not that anyone really needs it but it’s there.
https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/RX5700-8G/specifications/
https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/RX5700XT-8G/specifications/
https://www.techpowerup.com/img/MdI3utuVxXOo6xHU.jpg
So what is the power comsumption running on PCIE4 mode? I’ve only seen benchmarks of it running on PCIE3 platforms usually on intel Z390 chipset mobos.
Funny enough 1 PC reviewer had to make pcie 4 slot in to a pcie 3 on a X570 mobo for the RX5700 to post, so I’m not sure that PCIE 4 support has been enabled by AMD.
PCIe 4.0 is a whole lot of nothing in terms of performance vs 3.0 so power consumption is probably the same, at least for gaming.
Maybe synthetics might show increased power consumption if they can even saturate 4.0.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pci-express-4-0-performance-scaling-radeon-rx-5700-xt/23.html