Well, not really a rant because random is random - you can’t fix Ancient legendary items in D3 but if you decide to use them in D4 please think about also increasing the legendary power when they drop as ancients.
Example - I have re-rolled Lamentation into 3 ancients but all with miserable legendary power rolls. I found 2 with miserable rolls. The well rolled normal I use is gonna be hard to replace.
Make sure you think about this aspect if you go with ancients in D4.
Lamentation 100 - 150% Ancient Lamentation 140 - 160%, something like this anyway. (example only)
Or another idea, if you do need another tier of gear make ancients with unique artwork and powers.
And yes, random or not it’s still a bit annoying to get the 5th ancient lamentation with puny rolls.
My opinion is that they should be removed(ancients), on D3 since you can easily fill every slot with legendaries they made ancients because legendaries didn’t feel especial anymore.
Just make rares viable (same number and range of modifiers as legendaries) and reduce the drop (and necessity) of legendaries on D4 and that would be a good improvement.
- With necessity I meant that my build shouldn’t require certain legendaries to be used but instead just be slightly improved (or even just modified) by said items.
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Or just don’t make the droprates of usual legendaries so high that you need ancients to somehow keep the lootgrind going.
Just remove them from the game altogether.
They are a broken concept to somehow “fix” the horrible itemization of D3 and are completely unnecessary if they get itemization right to begin with.
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I strongly agree with the two posts above.
Ancients/Primals were a failure, and a lazy design. Useless powercreep, which made 95% of legendaries useless, when they were already useless for 80% of them.
And more, this is more a source of frustration than anything. 95% of primals you found is garbage, I don’t even feel joy when a Red light pops out, all I think is “Great, 15 forgotten souls”.
Add absurds multipliers above, congrats, you got ruined itemization and difficulty.
Legendaries must remain meaning “LEGENDARY”.
I want D4 to get rid of the Ancient/Primal/Mythic content, really. Legendaries must be rare te find, and not a gamechanger with absurd multiplier.
It should be about optimisation, slightly better affix and some gameplay/spells modifier for bring some fresh air into theorycraft/building.
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I do agree with all of you folks above, I thought that maybe they were using the ancient idea as a timesaving device to reduce artwork etc. Or in their analysis of the power tiers they need another tier between legendary and mythic… IDK, but I would prefer they be unique not a re-branded legendary, if they think the added tier is necessary them make them stand alone.
Edit: for the sake of clarity, if the developers decide to use ancients even though many in the community doesn’t like it, that is why I made the suggestion.