Once again you can’t Ban anyone based on time played and yeah I forgot about the seasonal hours, you’re right…
If you don’t have a proof of botting than even if you spot someone who apparently plays 18-20h a day in seasons it might be just like I said siblings sharing an account and yeah they don’t care if it’s against the EULA (they know it) yet they do it anyway just to gain advantage over others…
Technically you can because one can’t legitimatelly play 20h+ per day for months in a row.
Have you seen any banwaves at all during last two seasons (S17-S18)?
So how many months have passed already yet botters, account sharing players and THUD users are having the time of their lives, cause there was no banwave in two seasons already at all…
I’m glad you noticed my point and disappointed towards the lack of action from Blizzard’s part.
People have been demanding action to be taken as there is hard evidence of blantant cheating.
I doubt Blizz cares anymore. MissCheetah (I know she doesn’t work for Blizz) may write something about how botting harms the game just to maintain the appearances that they care, but honestly I doubt any actions are or will be taken anyway when even if some random players caught on the forum using THUD get away with it without even a warning from devs, hack team or anyone at all except forum posters…
The oldest argument 
No, no mr. Admin it wasnt me cheating, my brother was sitting at PC and we share even account. So much coincidences in one place, played 65 days in 68 days, 5.5k+ paragon, never played before just in s18, top wizard in leaderboard - those siblings ROCK!
We both know appearances can be deceiving.
We occasionally get mentions of “X developers are working on Project X” and ‘Y Developers are working on Project Z’…etc etc etc…
So taking that into account, you have to ask the question ‘Does anyone know how many resources it would take to actively monitor everyone for botting?’
I think the correct answer is they do it and they care, but not to they extent they may have if it was not relegated to Classic Game Status and with less people devoted to it now than in previous years.
Yeah man you can bot in this game and if you find proper friends they will teach you how. Ye I remember that we were against but blizzard dis nothing so we just started booting… I’m not playing blizzard games anymore i stoped like 1 year ago and I won’t play anymore. Good luck
It gets really bad at the end of the season. all of a sudden these people with 5K paragon pop on the leaderboards – who have never been there – and disrupt everything.
My suggestion is to cap paragon (save the xp to carry over) to an obtainable level for seasons. 3000 or so…
They bot until high paragon and then they stop and just push leader board that’s how you avoid ban. Also if you are going to join to dark site remember to kill in task manager battlnet - new warden.
I know this is dumb but if you want be top you have to play like that
I would cap it at 2000 paragon, but when season ends all the paragon you earned during it will transfer to your non-season, so if you end up with 1200 paragon in season or 2000 it will be added to your non-season chars, instead of what we have right now based on Experience…
Once you would reach 10000 paragon you could no longer gain the +5 main stat anymore per paragon level.
As far as I know, they only really investigate players at the top of the leaderboards and ban them in waves, which typically go out about a week before the end of the season so they have less of a chance of climbing back up to the top of leaderboards on another account.
Also, as far as I know, these investigations are just that, investigations. If they don’t find any proof that a player is botting, they may not get the ban hammer. There also seems to be the assumption that those with so much playtime are botting, but that’s not necessarily true. They could be account sharing, which is also a bannable offense, but it’s significantly harder to prove, especially if shared on the same PC.
I know what you’re probably thinking. “That is bull, they know they are cheating if a character has 22 hours per day”. Maybe so, but I guess that’s just how it goes if Blizzard has no way to prove it and they claim to be a total no life loser with Insomnia. Maybe Blizz doesn’t care about account sharing in the same household, and it’s not really possible to enforce it. Even if they could, they’d have to ban everyone who lets someone else play on their account which is probably most people who play this game.
Obviously, sharing the fun and sharing to gain advantage over other players are two different things. It is what it is if they can’t prove it, I guess. Maybe they see banning an account as a drastic measure. If they don’t want to ban them, I wish they’d remove seasonal rankings for those who are obviously cheating even if they can’t prove it. If they don’t have a way of doing this, it’s worth the effort to make one to ensure a healthy competitive community.
Some people choose to stick their head in the sand, which is fine, it is their choice. Others cannot simply stand by while others are being wronged and the powers that be are doing nothing about it. I would feel horrible if I saw someone blatantly breaking the rules, ruining other people’s fun, and I didn’t say or do anything about it.
Your fun in this game is doing the season journey on 5 or 6 or 7 different accounts across all regions. My fun is doing the seasonal achievements and goofing around with friends. Many players fun is seeing how high they can legitimately climb up the leader boards.
Say hackers were able to alter the game and not let you run on your multiple accounts or complete the Season Journey and Blizz did nothing about it. You would be on here in a heart beat railing against them and for Blizz to take action. I would not have my head in the sand because it is not my problem, I would be standing with you pushing them to take action. I would not do this because I am jealous or have low self esteem, I would do this because it is the right thing to do.
They could make a simple global alteration that changes the playing field for everyone.
Change the value of each primary (STR|DEX|INT) from +5 to either +2 or +1.
The latter will change it immediately.
Exactly! You wrote that better than i would ever could.
Agree that those who run bots should not…I am on a pc on DSL and I play for fun…I don’t worry about leader boards…what bothers me is that there have been times that the bots actually screw up the game for me and others
Ummm… this is the Diablo III forum you have posted in.
I thought you may have noticed that when you clicked and decided to type 
Well, that particular analogy isn’t exactly an analogy. How about this…
My friend has entered a cross-country bicycling event and I learn that he plans on using steroids to gain an advantage in stamina over other racers. Do I report him to the event staff?
No. Because I’m not participating in that race, and I don’t give a crap who wins or loses, my friend included. I ride a BMX bike at the local skate park. I don’t care what anybody else is doing.
But the fact is that the leaderboard is in such a condition that no one who isn’t unemployed and who doesn’t play 10 to 12 hours a day with a specific focus on placing on the leaderboard, and who doesn’t have a group of three friends to help them level up their Legendary gems will never place near the top of the leaderboard, and I’d be surprised if any average solo player can even get on the leaderboard.
Players who run bots are taking nothing away from anyone. The player who runs a bot still has to complete high-level GR’s in person in order to rank up Legendary gems and place on the leaderboard. The bot can’t do that for them. But the leaderboards are a ridiculous mess in any case. That’s why I continue to call for leaderboard divisions when I get the chance, and this seems to be one of those chances.
The current leaderboard situation brings up two issues: the need for a dedicated Solo only mode, and the need for Leaderboard divisions.
Solo Only Mode
Solo only would require a selection box on character creation, which would limit the character’s interaction with other characters in the same way that normal Seasonal characters cannot play with Hardcore non-Seasonal characters, and Seasonal Hardcore characters cannot play with normal Seasonal characters, etc… The Solo character wouldn’t be able to play with anyone else, ever.
If we have a dedicated Solo character, then there must be a Solo Leaderboard where these characters can rank against each other, and not against “Solo” characters who have been developed in a four-man meta-group with Paragon levels in the thousands, and Legendary gem ranks in the hundreds. Solo characters would be compared only to other Solo characters, so players could get an idea of how their characters are actually performing. Non-Solo characters would never be able to place on the Solo Only Leaderboard, even if they play solo and achieve a higher clear than the top Solo Only player.
Leaderboard Divisions
As the game progresses, and more and more players are reaching into the 3000-5000 Paragon range, new and casual players simply have no chance of ever seeing their names in the top 1000.
The solution is the creation of 9 more Leaderboards (for a total of ten), each with 1000 places, and their separation by Paragon level. For example:
0-500
501-750
751-1000
1001-1250
1251-1500
1501-2250
2251-2500
2501-2750
27501-3000
3001 and up
Each player earning a place on the Leaderboard would keep that place, even after moving up to the next Division, until they are bumped off the end of the list by upcoming players.
The beauty of this system is that a player cannot play the game without earning experience points, and thus earning Paragon levels. There is no way any player could artificially dominate a Leaderboard in any Division, because once they moved past that Division, there would be no way they could go back and compete in lower Divisions.
It is conceivable that a single player could appear on all ten Leaderboards, and it is possible that the number one spot would never be replaced if no other player could achieve that level of performance at that particular Paragon level. But everybody playing in that Division would have a chance to.
Conclusion
There is only one way to satisfy the original concept and implementation of Leaderboards; there must be a Solo only mode of play, and there must be Leaderboard Divisions in which players of similar level and power can compete against each other.
Look the point isnt that they are able to do higher GR than me or anybody else, they have advantage in 2k-3k more paragon points which they gathered from botting. While bot cant do the work for them in achieving high GR kills, those extra paragon points help them a lot and normal fair player will never catch them in that.
Exactly my point. Let those boneheads compete on their own leaderboard, which only ranks players at P3000 and above, and let guys like me compete against other guys like me at P1000-2000.
If Blizzard can’t ban bots, they can certainly remove their teeth by giving lower-level players their own leaderboards to compete on.