A Barb Response to the Lamentation Nerf

Yes! please re-buff Lamentation!

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I still canā€™t get over ā€œmay have over shot it?ā€ How do you ā€œmayā€ over shoot? Itā€™s math. You can calculate it and determine with reasonable certainty if it was performing within the range you were expecting. That is unless your benchmark is some non-quantifiable objective that just leaves players being jerked around like a rottweilerā€™s chew toy.

And after reading that, the Sader set is just salt in the wound and my excitement for it isnā€™t what it would have been if Lamentation had kept at least some of the damage. Before yesterday, I was planning on maining Barb in S19 with a Sader secondary to goof around with the set. Now, Iā€™m just going to play Barb. Maybe its just my small rebellious streak, but if I played Sader I feel like Iā€™d be participating in whatever scheme the devs have going on (why yes, that is a tinfoil hat :rofl: ).

And to anyone reading this, lay off of Nev. She is between a rock and a hard place. Blizzard has her hands tied and she can only do so much. Iā€™ve worked at a company that I believe is as heavily siloā€™d as Blizzard and its ridiculous how much red tape there can be even when working with another department not to mention a PR role. Snapping at her wonā€™t help the situation but it will certainly make things worse on her.

Anybody can become angry ā€” that is easy , but to be angry with the right person and to the right degree and at the right time and for the right purpose, and in the right way ā€” that is not within everybodyā€™s power and is not easy. ā€“ Aristotle

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As far as i can tell no one is angry with her or blaming her for this bullcrap. We know she has nothing to do with this fiasco.

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I wasnā€™t directly responding to anyone in this thread just anyone who might read it in general. Iā€™ve seen some pretty angry stuff directed at her in other threads and I felt like it needed to be said, and maybe if she reads it to know we still support her.

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I donā€™t think itā€™s possible for someone to have written a better script for what has played out in the last 24hs. Itā€™s so ridiculously hilariousā€¦itā€™s hard to believe itā€™s even true.

I mean the confidence level in these devsā€¦
The messages they relay to their player baseā€¦

Itā€™s tough to comprehend whatā€™s even going on at Blizzard.

Got my popcorn canā€™t wait to see how this all turns out :grin:

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Me too man lol. Actually this is better:

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Vyr Wiz was OP for 2 seasonsā€¦ Maybe this game is being developed by Wiz fans?

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Thanks Free, again, for your effort.

I, as a barb, feel totally disrespected and ignored when knowing lamentation nerf is confirmed.

How many times did the dev eat their words of working on barb to balance barb to other classes? I have been waiting for years not to be laughed or kicked for being a dps in a group as a barb. This 2.6.7 final patch note is really disheartening and make me lose my last hope on the dev. I do not trust the dev would really let barb be comparable in dps with other class even when they work on the patch (maybe another year later?) which there is barb new set.

Unlike the dev, i keep my word. You nerf lamentation, I say goodbye to S19 (or even the whole D3). Period.

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Is the new way of saying ā€œI think, at least I am pretty sure, I might of, oh darn I messed up and over shot the toilet a tadā€ or in other words ā€œWhat does the right numbers have anything to do with it?ā€ :nerd_face:
Right Micro? :vampire:

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ā€œmay have overshot itā€ is like saying I missed the toilet a bit or
I left the bagel in the toaster 30 seconds too long. When you turn around and remove 80% of the original change maybe blizzard should have said " We #%@^#$ up let us now go and make even more barbs unhappy"

What is going to happen when dark clears 150 today on sader then they nerf the new set by 7 to make classes even? They will need to reset the ERA. Or even worse they leave it as is and 95% of people are now playing sader. Meta is now 2x sader/zbarb/zmonk. lol 4 melee classes leaving all ranged classes dead!!!

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I have too say that I am hopeful about this second push. Hereā€™s hoping to Devs come to their senses.

Special thanks to Free for all heā€™s done and continues to do.

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I do have to admit seeing that amuses me greatly. :rofl:

I would to add my voice to the cacophony of Barbs asking why we deserve to be stuck 7GRs+ behind everyone else until a future season where we get a new set? I love playing the current sets, and would enjoy them far more if they were viable in the meta to play with my friends instead of being stuck doing zbarb or only being able to play in farm groups. I see no reason why we couldnā€™t keep the original lamentation buff that made barbs exactly in line with other classes using an engaging and fun set that would have good group play potential. Please consider re-implementing this change before the start of season 19!!!

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oh and to add I just saw a video of a solo dps 4man 150 sader clear. rift finish with over 3 minutes left and RG too 1:30 seconds to kill. That is equal to prenerf necro RGK but sader can kill any RG. On top that it is able to clear trash fast enough to clear a 150 rift with 3 minutes left. Listening to the chat on the video it seems they didnā€™t even now what was best set up and they were just screwing around testing stuff. Wait till they get the Meta going. OP much?

I have had my beef with you, but this new Crusader set being this easily 140+ is a disgrace, and makes you look like a better developer than they are.

I have usually defended Blizzard and the devs, as their job is not easy. This was pathetic, though. Adding a a multiplicative 100% x3 buff (so that makes it 800%) and then a separate 20,000% buff to Heavenā€™s Fury out of nowhere is beyond moronic. Hard to justify, and hard to support them.

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preach it Free, i am glad blizzard and addressing a well needed problem with barbs, however it is now time for them to act. The leaderboards are there, and rend is not at the top, not even for the barb class, let alone the global combination of each class. Revert the nerf blizzad, give us 125%, if not the 200%. Itā€™s one item that will appease THOUSANDS of barbarians without pushing them out of hand. Necro is strong, wiz is strong, WD is strong, demon hunter is strong. Let barb be strong. The constraints of mobility on this build make it not able to compete with other classes when pushing grs. You get a bit of movement speed, but not much. Your bar is lined up with defensive crys and shouts and wrath of the berserker. We NEED the damage multiplier. It feels like we have a diamond but its encrusted in coal that we must now carry around and wait while blizzard can simply tap it and create wealth.

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Hello Negator. It takes a big person to agree with someoneā€™s ideas even if you personally conflicted with that person previously.

I agree with you on this patch situation. Itā€™s ridiculous.

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He ratted on me because of my politics, and got me woke-banned for 3 days.

But that does not change the fact that the reasons they nerfed WW are 100% contradictory to why the randomly uber-ultra-super buffed AoV and Fury.

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Thatā€™s cute that you assume the Barb set is going to be anything besides molten hot garbage. It might be fun to play, but DPS? Probably not.

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