sigh…20 characters requirement
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Not dupers.
Maybe some of it is the new build.
All of it is from how many bots are running right now and the fact that Activision has always had trash servers.
But nothing to do with dupers.
In game not too bad for me…creating game seems to take about 10 seconds longer.
Well if you know its dupers, stop duping will ya?
Bots are pretty much always on, makes no real sense for it to be so touch and go. Especially when they crashed americas, then they all migrated to EU to start duping after it did and lagged that server.
100% duping lol yall naive asf.
JUST CHECK THE DISCOORDS
They’re literally warning HC players to not play right now
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Bots are better right now than they ever have been. So I’ll try to help explain it.
Bots never used to start when ladder started. Their owners would have to get chars grushed and leveled up and geared up before they could start spamming games. This ladder reset is when they switched over the bots that start when everyone else does. So, when everyone else is spamming new games, now when someone would be controlling at most 8 accounts at once, they’re running all 100-1000 bots from the very start. These bots auto level auto rush and auto gear themselves. The auto leveling is a spam game process with very short runs. Thats a lot of new load on the server when compared to everyone playing in the same baal runs perviously most games were high pop early ladder becuase teamwork was faster. Now on top of that super fast TZ games are being spamming 24/7. This has caused instability along with this new build (maybe). So many more accounts are all signed in at once on blizzards trash servers while they also just updated their warzone which probably brought a bunch of users back as well. Thats a lot of people funneled into an already overtaxed server system. Your reflection on X or Y server crashing isn’t a migration of dupers, do you think bots idle when one server goes down? They’re programmed to auto rush level and gear. Why wouldn’t they be able to switch their server too to get better ping and complete their tasks?
On top of that there is absolutely zero evidence in any market that dupes are happening. I should know I’m on every trade site and discord. I even look at the RMT sites out of curiosity. Unless they’re so smart of dupers that they can change all items ID’s and stats (they’re not). If it was I’d call it out. I called it out in new world the second I knew people were duping. The lag you’re experiencing has nothing to do with dupes tho.
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The lag and disconnects seem to coincide with good TZs coming up. I’m assuming its a ton more extra bots loading in to run those zones.
You stupid. Which is cool. But find any evidence of dupes and I’ll agree. But you can’t. It isn’t reflected in the RMT aspect of the game. It isn’t reflected on any trading forum. It isn’t reflected by a single “my item poofed” complaint anywhere. You want to feed into the hype and not use any logic thats fine. They’re telling HC players not to play b/c of server instability so what? The game lagged during D2R’s launch was that b/c of dupes?
Stay a clown follower all you’d like. No reason to ever use your brain right?
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is the reason for the sudden spikes in lag related to certain TZ’s then? Its pretty clear botting is rampant, and you are right i haven’t heard of anyone on hardcore ladder claiming that an item poofed(Though anyone who has access to duping could just play it safe and dupe/cube runes).
also, how do you explain it taking down americas instead of europe at particular times of the day? Bots just get turned on and left on the entire day
Not to mention more legit players tend to play that hour as well.
100% certain if someone was a smart duper. You’d cube runes, and complete runewords. Possible dupe sojs for private walks. Dupe the godly rare jewels as well. You wouldn’t tell anyone about it and keep it quiet. I’m not saying D2R is dupe immune nor that there will never be a dupe in game. But the evidence simply right now is that it isn’t dupes.
The Lag spikes are a combination of many things. Firstly bots are active sooner. Secondly botters have expanded the amount of bots they’re using because of how efficient they are. Let’s say you were running 100 bots before. That is 15 or so grushes. Hours and Hours of leveling. Hours and hours of trading to gear them up. Now that they do all of that on their own? Why not run 200? 1000? They don’t even have to do prep work anymore to bot. On top of that Blizz server have always been trash. On top of that WZ just had a big update and is active. There is a LOT more activity than there used to be. Now timing wise it could be many things. TZ can contribute to it, but also bots can switch servers, so they might start farming a server with a higher ping if they think a dclone walk is coming. Funneling everyone into one server and then all the bots following is bound to cause some lag issue.
Botting is more rampant in this game than it has ever been. Fully agreed.
As far as it being TZ related I’m not sure. Are all servers on the same TZ list? I could easily see someone changing a priority server for a better TZ on their bots, but I don’t know if that is the case.
My guess is that the lag at particular time is happen stance at some points and during others dclone or ping related. If NA was lagging right now really bad, what would the average american do? I’d probably switch to EU and start the overloading process for EU becuase I want better ping for myself. What would a botter do? Probably switch to EU so their runs would be more sucessful.
And I do want to point out that during last reset there were laggy days (not as many) and during D2R launch for weeks it was laggy. Launch was they didn’t prep like they don’t prep for any game launch. Blizz is awful about that. And then during the reset, they didn’t expect the mass return to the game.
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I’d agree, but just because it would be smart for them to do that doesn’t mean they would. But maybe that’s the reason we haven’t heard much about poofing items and dupes. People caught on early last season that there were dupers because they sold items that poofed. You only need one greedy idiot to ruin it but you are probably right if we had duping we might have more complaints about duped items poofing.
But ok, this is at least a plausible explanation for the server problems. There is no doubt botting is very rampant this season. The amount of gear found in less than a week is staggering. Nobody is duping some of these items, and there’s just so much within 6 days.
Oh yeah I totally meant if you were a smart duper that’s how you’d do it. But actually I would only stick to runewords/runes that were cubed. That way everything is perm and nobody would know you were doing it. The jewels/rings thing happens if people already know what you’re doing.
So yeah someone could be doing it on the sly, but there is no market representation of it. Even stores I see list out of stock on runes and if you could make an unlimited amount, then why would you ever be out of stock?
Now last season there was indeed a dupe method, but it was very caveman like. They were only able to sometimes get a select item in a select spot if the perfect scenario. And beyond that it had to take up more than 1 space. So they were duping the same enigma, but they couldn’t even leave the game with it like you used to be able to do. So they were selling poofable items (even scummier than just duping IMO). Thankfully the devs hotfixed that quite quickly.
I do want to say that there is certainly potential for a dupe to even be in the game now, but I don’t think that there is AND I don’t think that server stability will tell you anything if/when one happens. Way back when, when the lag methods were leaked, blizz after months fixed the way you drop out of games. It fixed that old lag dupe method. The D2R devs didn’t know what they were doing, but it seems to me that they repeated that fix in D2R without really knowing why they were doing it. So chances are whatever new dupe method comes along it won’t have anything to do with lagging out servers. Of course there is always a chance they find a workaround.
We do however know from the stupid enigma dupers that runes/runewords/socketed items work similarly to how they used to. It seems like temp perming though isn’t viable though that isn’t confirmed.
I would also note that if you look at the trade posts of the botters who use traderie or d2jSP or diabloio. You’ll see that in their trade posts where they are trading multiple types of items in multiples. Items like shako/tal armor/ whatever that cannot be duped unless you were to hack and edit the item ID to prevent clashing. That would just be a crazy amount of effort to trade a shako (IMO). So I really do thing it is just botters spamming much harder than ever before. If you were really good at searching these trade forums too btw, you can look at these same botters this season and last season and see that their trade posts from last season were days or a week later than they were this season. Their bots got up and running much quicker this time they started finding stuff much quicker this time and the clientless bot was released as well, and they’ve expanded what they’re doing. So, yeah, the servers are going to lag. More users, blizz not caring, WZ update, more bots.
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the method is literally for sell in the hck discoord right now
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its being done right now
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Dia clone walked the earth day 2 hurrrrrppp a durrrrppppp
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just look at jsp
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- THey’re literally shutting servers down to fix it like in 20 minutes.
Talk out the side at ur face at me again
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- No it isn’t. Just some scammer trying to collect money from gullible clowns like yourself.
- No it isn’t.
- Yes dclone walked the earth day 2. Crazy that when bots start 2/3/4 days sooner they tend to find items 2/3/4 days sooner.
- I have looked at JSP and all other sites. There is still zero evidence of a dupe method.
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- No they’re not
Stay smooth tho.
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There is literally a message in game right now warning of servers shutting down you ape.
Check twitter also
And yes the method being sold is on the same discoord thats been selling bots and scripts for years now. Tell me you’re just a filthy diablo casual without telling me.
You’re not in the know and it shows.
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Awww we like making stuff up on the internet. Cute.
You bot you get banned. You dupe you get banned. Bots you start and forget, duping you have manually do it.
Of course you can get a bot to dupe but then why bother. Bots out of the box is trained to grind. Why the extra bother to train it to dupe when you end up just let it sit there anyway.
The bot items are legit and wont disappear the dupe ones you have to launder it.
All in all if there are dupes its mostly limited. Bots are the load killer and market maker
Did dupers ever get banned back in the day? I don’t even think the idiot who did the awful enigma dupe last ladder for a day got banned.