No I chose to say that because it represents the majority of people who denied the results.
Not sure why you are insulted by it though but that’s not my problem.
you’re not sure why I would be insulted when you made an assumption that was false about me and generalized a group of people who disagreed with the survey results?
ok then…
I think that you acknowledge that “I personally don’t see why D2 players would vote for some of the changes” make it sound like you are looking for explanations and rationalizations to explain your state of disbelief in why others do not agree with you.
The survey as all internet polls have selection and sampling bias. For the respondents, this poll gives a snap shot of their views. From this poll, the vast majority of respondents (>94%) want at least some change in D2R while less than 6% wanted the status quo.
No. However, to dismiss the poll is silly.
From the questions asked in the poll, what changes do you think would have the most widespread support?
What changes would have the least widespread support?
In general, are the changes that you think would have the most widespread support are those in the poll with the most widespread support?
In general, are the changes that you think would have the least widespread support are those in the poll with the least widespread support?
Actually, I think most of your point lack merit. It certainly is possible that something could happen as you claim, but overall the results seem solid in relation to what the respondent’s views were. The scale of malfeasance that you claim seems implausible.
that’s all I’m saying and that is why I prefer to have a better survey done
All surveys “certainly it’s possible”
Incredibly super duper unlikely unless there was a mass conspiracy to throw the results.
The survey was given to the Diablo community via diff venues…so the conspiracy theory is highly unlikely.
again you make an assumption about me that is false… good job you’re really convincing me
Yeah ok well taker easy
Not sure who’s assuming what…in this thread you are “acting” offended quite easily even after I explained the purpose wasn’t a personal attack, a reflection yes.
Then when I further say I don’t understand how you could be offended because I don’t think like that/understand… you say this again.
So idk what to tell you
OK. I have already shown how even if 10% of the vote was horse hockey, how little difference overall it would make in the overall results. In terms of a better survey, I think you would be hard pressed to find one now or in the future where the results will be made public. Even in Blizzard’s survey you have self-reporting and no way to know the player’s game knowledge. Needless to say, Blizzard will not make their survey public.
What percent of votes do you consider unreliable?
What percent of votes do you consider unreliable that agree with you?
What percent of votes do yo consider unreliable that disagree with you?
If you can’t see why making a false assumption about somebody and suggesting that I am apart of the snowflake/cancel culture mentality might be offensive then you might want to consider your words better. Think before you speak, maybe get some counseling and work out some personal issues… Idk either way I hope you figure it out because there is no productivity in an argument focused on false assumption or personal attacks
So you said this because I said people don’t want to believe the results because they go against what they want to believe.
Which is a highly accurate response based on actual results
Somehow you were insulted by that. Which makes 0 sense to me…0
Then I respond with that after you again state how insulted you were over NOTHING.
Which you then cut and paste to your own benefit leaving out what I said in it’s entirety to try and what? Make me feel bad about nothing?
Then you say this after accusing me of making a false assumption which it isn’t a false assumption because what I first replied with in the thread is actually highly accurate considering the results and how surveys ACTUALLY WORK.
So again idk what to tell you man, doesn’t look good for you though.
If the poll results agreed with what you personally believed that D2 players wanted, would you have created this thread in the first place?
I strongly believe if you answer this question honestly the answer would be no. Therefore, this thread was created to discredit a poll that you disagree with and is not about the poll limitations per se.
There’s one undeniable truth however that makes your assumption false… The fact that I disagree with the survey because of evidence of why it may not be accurate even though it is speculated that it is mostly accurate. I did not make this post only because I personally disagreed with the results. When talking to my twin (both of us grew up playing D2) I showed him the survey and him and I both discussed it. He mentioned how easy it would be to manipulate the results and him and I both tested it out. I then considered other possibilities and decided after seeing people mention the survey in their argument saying something similar to “this is what the D2 community wants, the survey shows it” that people should be aware of reasons why the survey could possibly be inaccurate and I posted it after work late at night and I attempted to keep my personal views out of it.
Mcladin, no matter how many times you want to try and logically convince yourself that you know exactly what I am thinking and why I made this post. That you know my feelings and intent and you know my beliefs based off of those feelings. No matter what you say I know why I made this post and why I believe the results are inaccurate.
Saying “You think the results might not be real because you don’t want them to be.” is a false assumption
MicroRNA, I hope this also answers your questions, I answered honestly and told you exactly what transpired before making this post
Edit: I am now going to go to work and wont be responding to anymore posts
The simple fact remains that the results are consistent with the preferences of the community in relation to popular changes are popular in the survey while divisive changes are less popular. You have presented no direct evidence of widespread conspiracy/ unreliability to claim correctly that the results are inaccurate. Moreover, the results demonstrate otherwise.
You CHOOSE to take it personal.
No it’s a reflective accurate statement based on results and how surveys actually work.
But as you keep replying the way you are OBVIOUSLY you don’t believe the results and don’t want too even if they are accurate based on how surveys actually work.
Am I not entitled to distrust something if myself and others can easily manipulate or change it?
Does there need to be proof of it? Should others not take this into consideration? Should we just assume it is accurate when there is nothing to compare it with?
Is there another survey that is more trustworthy and addresses concerns I have that we can compare results with? To my knowledge blizzard hasn’t released the results of their survey. If they did and the results were the same I would gladly say that both tests are accurate enough to use as evidence of how the D2 community most likely feels as a whole. That using it as an example even if it was generalized would be appropriate and logical.
its 2021. and people still belive all they read on the internet is real 
Thank you! I prefer to cover all my bases and have the closest thing we can get to real truth even if we can’t prove it. The very fact that I myself can easily manipulate the survey results and act as if I were many participants is enough reason for me to personally distrust it.
Yes, you can distrust the survey.
That would help your case and if you had evidence that it occurred in great numbers. As I showed even 400 false votes do not change the results substantially.
We have lots to compare it too. Just look at many diablo-related forums. The popular change positions are popular in the survey. Least popular on the forums are least popular in the survey. You have independent confirmation already.
You have the evidence all around. You should simply acknowledge that the poll has selection and sampling bias. The results within some margin of error capture a population similar to those who responded to the survey.
Some know that there is misinformation on the internet as well as a wealth of useful information. One problem is that some people ignore truthful information, because it contradicts their false perceptions.
agian we dont know if its true or not, you just keep saying its true cause you want it to be.
no proff its true and no proff its not true.
Lets see what I actually wrote that you did not quote in the same post where you see my view is more nuanced and accurate.
In addition, there is proof that at least some of the survey is true. I responded to the poll and left a comment. My comment was part of the 86 page document.
Moreover, you can see that the answers in the poll correlate with the opinions across multiple forums. There may be quantitative differences but qualitatively things are similar in that popular changes as discussed in several forums are popular in the poll. Likewise, less popular changes as discussed in multiple forums are also less popular.
Again, I will leave you with my quote above to reiterate.