Is blizzard that ignorant or that cocky? D2R OFFERS nothing new and launches same day as poe2. They did this with last epoch launch too. I love d2r but why launch at the same time as the biggest competitor to d2r amd world of diablo4.
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I love D2R as well, but I wouldn’t call POE a competitor. More like the recipient of the transfer of power.
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If you’re more interested in PoE2, then play it. There’s nothing new in D2:R, so you won’t be missing out on anything that you haven’t already experienced. You can always start the D2:R season later if you want, the botters will do their part in making all of the items you want dirt cheap.
Yes but if they released it before or a bit after POE2 I would 100% have played the new d2r season, but since its on the same day at POE2, I wont be playing at all. Same with my ladder start group, they are all playing POE2. Just a very dumb decision. But its clear all they care about is the big pile of streaming corporate d4 so whatever.
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I think Blizzard doesn’t care much for this game, because cheaters make the game a headache for not only the legitimate player base, but for them as well. Combating that “problem” is nothing but a money sink for them.
But hey, D2:R sure did draw the old school crowd back in to boost those D4 sales! (Which I think was the main purpose for D2:R anyway.)
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PoE 2 just looks like the same game with better graphics. Wasn’t that impressed by PoE 1 frankly.
I mean, POE2 looks like POE1 in style for sure, definitely has better graphics and animations. But the systems have changed quite a bit, with huge QOL improvements and new features. It feels like a real sequel that didn’t deviate from the original’s atmosphere. Feels similar to how D1 progressed to D2, while keeping the grit.
I don’t see how you weren’t impressed though, I think you maybe used the wrong word to describe it. Maybe it was a game that you didn’t vibe with, but it is objectively impressive, you can’t argue that. If that game doesn’t impress you, nothing will. I think the word you are looking for is “satisfied”, which is fair. I love that game but stopped playing POE1 after 9 years or so because of too much content bloat. Literally too many things to do I couldn’t keep up with anymore.
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For me I think I’d have needed more of a departure from PoE1 to have much interest to be fair, as I didn’t enjoy PoE 1 very much. It was… a lot of things. Lack of defined classes, way too much loot on screen. Annoying bullet hell bosses with far to many 1 shots, a map based end game which I’m not fond up (much like the D2 Mods that go that route) RNG on top of RNG with item corruption (again a mechanic I didn’t like in the D2 mods either.
The problem I see with PoE 2 so far is it’s moving even more away from the things I enjoy and further into the souls like genre which I strongly dislike with Dodge rolls, manual blocking, and the like. I also never liked PoE 1 weird passive tree, I’ve frankly hated that system since FF10.
Don’t get me wrong I’ll likely play through it for a season some time after it’s full launch, but unless I’m greatly mistaken I don’t see it having a lot of appeal for me, much like PoE 1. And I’ve tried to like PoE 1 I’ve leveled to 100, and I’ve beaten all the content except Uber Elder (which I didn’t even tried because frankly I didn’t have the interest to care.)
And while I agree that PoE suffers from bloat (I thought it was a better game 8 years ago PoE 2 looks like it’s going to bring a lot of that bloat with it from day one, and I just don’t see their devs not simply adding even more bloat very quickly. PoE IMHO (and for my own enjoyment) suffers from being one of those endless “live service” games and well I’m much more fond of playing completed games.
I don’t like having to relearn a game every season lol. A lot of people love things feeling “new and fresh.” I’m more of a guy that’s perfectly happy enjoying his pizza with the same ingredients year after year. Which is why I tend to play things like Time Locked MMO p-servers, vintage console games, and things like D2. Also why pretty much all the patches for D2R after 2.3 kind of just pissed me off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP_IN90-LQA
There for example is a clip from a random map I ran this season while leveling (was still 94 at the time I believe) I just didn’t find it all that fun. I’d be willing to bet PoE 2 turns into the same thing by the point you close on endgame, just screen diarrhea. That got WAY worse after I finished gearing. PoE just feels like you are fighting clumps of health bars.
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I don’t understand the frustration about poe2 beeing released around the time of season 9 lol.
Blaming Blizz for it is lame.
There will be another season and poe wont run away.
Throw a dice if you can’t decide xD
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If the implication is supposed to be that (insert some other game here) is launching at the same time as D2R’s season, and that this is a problem because D2R’s season will have fewer players… I’m not entirely sure I see the problem.
Like, do you try and play the “economy” game in D2R? Because PoE’s ALWAYS had Diablo beat in that respect. Literal auction house, bro. You can’t sit in D2’s “chat abyss” and expect me to take that complaint seriously. Do you instead try and farm world 1st clears every single season? If so, you now have less competition. Is that the complaint? That you feel it’s too easy, now?
Legitimately I don’t understand why this is of any consequence whatsoever. People who want to play this game, will play this game. People who don’t, won’t. And as absurd as it may be, there’s this hot new concept of “playing more than one game within a 3 month time period.” Some people will swap between the two.
I know, it’s absurd, right? Almost as absurd as this faux outrage.
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I do agree with this, for sure. Along with the content bloat. I am hopeful they will reign it in a bit.
I will disagree with you about class identity in POE though… each class can do whatever they want, sure, but they all have 3 very distinguishing ascendancies that really define each class. I appreciate the skill tree and it’s complexities, it allows for the possibility to run with a thought and find ways to make things work. This might be my favorite thing. I’ve always loved odd builds, or off-meta, and POE has always been the dream for that interest.
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That’s my primary complaint against PoE. It’s like walking into a super market cuz your S/O told you “get some peanut butter.” And you get in there, and it’s like, 3 shelves times 12 entire feet full of peanut butter. All different kinds, all different brands. And you’re like, “man, I just need peanut butter, dude…”
In that aspect, I can almost see the complaint. Because if someone’s trying to take BOTH games seriously, PoE (and presumably the sequel) will demand way more attention. At the same time though, that’s literally just how opportunity cost works and it’s not Blizz’s fault they’re unwilling to work around one person’s personal choices.
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agreed, sad it didnt start on the 22nd so easy for them to have done this
True.
It’s all marketing 101, by releasing it on the same day. There are people who will pick D2 over PoE2 merely to be different (it’s a known practice that if you offer two (limited)options, and one is bad, people still choose the bad option to differentiate themselves and reduce sunk cost anxiety: called Paradox of Choice this psychology was researched by Barry Schwartz). Also if PoE2 suffers launch technical difficulties, people might temporarily flock to D2:R which indirectly encourages them to try D4.
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Frankly I choose neither, but I’ll likely keep playing D2R in single player.
How does it matter? If someone wants to play poe, D2R ladder starting two weeks later changes nothing.they would still be actuvely playing PoE.
D2R 4Life <3
Can’t wait to start fresh again on December 6th with the FohPangolin build :))
PoE 2 gets hyped up immense and all the streamers are going to switch to PoE 2.
But after a while the hype will go down like any other new game.
i prefer D2R, best dopamine game reward from hunting items/runes from my point of view xD
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I mean it’s basically the exact same game as PoE 1, in the same engine, by the same devs, with mostly the same gameplay loop, just better graphics. 90% of why it exists is that PoE 1 cash shop sales were down, and they needed a “new” game to sell people the same crap all over again.
It’s the end game of every game with cosmetic sales. When people eventually like the ones they have they stop buying new ones, so you need a sequel. I mean PoE 2 is likely 85%+ reused code based on how long they’ve worked on it.
People that like PoE will play it, people that aren’t already playing PoE 1 will be back in 3 weeks anyway as soon as they realize “oh yeah I already played this game and I remember why I quit.”
PoE2 is the same freemium money extracting treadmill, with a new story and revamped graphics, and will no doubt give players plenty of reasons to spend money.
Wallets ready? Get set… Spend spend spend!
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Pretty much. I HATE live service models.