Why just not improving drop rate of high runes?

you linked this

(https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/ab010655)

no enigma here.
here you use najs staff.

if 1run take 1hour+. it is very inefffective
If you have enigma. try seal pop. I got 10+ Hrs form that.

That was state of my character just after killing Baal. To upgrade to HotO I needed to get Vex, so after studying various guides and hints I decided to do LK chests exclusively. After almost a week of playing around 4-5h per day I got…Um and 2nd Ist; maybe smth like Lem too. So I got pissed off, and installed the mod.
Now I can play just for relax, as I’ll get HRs in some finite, acceptable time. Just for today it was 1 Gul, 2 Fal, 3 Hel, 2-3 Io, 1 Tir.

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sure. play what you like… ALL people should do the same.

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Couldn’t agree more on that.

However, that doesn’t solve the problem of too low drop rates for runes. As a offline only player I have the mod and PlayersX command to offset that, but what about online colleagues like @GhostDog? HF drop is seriously too bad, a quick example here is Sweet Phil’s run to assemble Enigma from LK chests:

It took 2132 runs, and he used well equipped(Wizardspike) sorceress for the task. As I read in guides a very good time per LK chest run is ~20s, so he had to grind for at least ~18 hours. Eighteen hours of repetitive, mindless chest grind instead of enjoying slaying monsters - f that’s not an exaggeration, I don’t know what is.

18 hours is not long for the BiS item for alot of classes.
i think it should be alot rare. but iam also one of the few.

“Look. I don’t wanna have to put too much energy into this. GIVE ME!”

Maybe, if I post enough threads and posts about it, they’ll give me what I want!

Better yet, just give me. I want. I deserve because I was born.

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i am solo SSF this season with over 600 hours played. the only decent runes i have found so far is: 2x Lo, 1 vex, 3 mal, 1 ist, 3 um, and 2 pul. which is basically worth next to nothing. this is by far the worst season i have ever had luck wise. ugh.

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By the logic of the “no don’t increase the droprate” guys you either have to be an unemployeed basement dweller (or a streamer which is basicially the same thing besides that the streamer earns money for doing it) or/and bot 4Head. :rofl:

i am 52
work 45 hours a week
and watch my 2 year old grand baby 7 days a week

drops are fine as is

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look, it comes down to this, this is a grindy game for people who like grinding, if you don’t enjoy grinding for a very long time, maybe play something else.

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This is difficult to believe if you actually calculate the odds. It is simple (well not so simple really) math.

Yeah it’s a bit much especially since for 99% of players being in a p8 party means somebody else is gonna snag it anyway. Lower the rarity of runes, screw farming the same area for months on end to try to make a runeword that you won’t need anyway since there’s no content you won’t have beaten by the time you get jah and ber. I’ve been farming for 100 hours after beating hell baal and haven’t seen more than a pul. Not fun anymore. You guys that say not to change it need to make some life goals outside of d2. It’s supposed to be fun not a side hustle

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7 hours of straight farming, not one elite unique, not 1 rune over hel rune. Zero charms of any kind of value. A few flawless gems and garbage rolls on charms and crafted items.

These drop rates are way to low.

And that is one reason why bots took over back in early 2000s.

Killing pindle/eldritch/thresh a few times is “fun”. When you go into the dozens of times is boring. Hundreds and thousands of runs appeal to botters and grinders who literally, play like bots. While most other players have already got bored and left.

I have a level 88/330%MF sorceress, I do MF runs with her (Cows, Countess, Summoner, Nilathak, Pindle, Eldritch etc), but it is so boring I want to play other classes, other builds, and not spend hours grinding. Most players want this, they cannot have it, so they leave. All that remains is the botters.

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Well you do this to yourself with limiting you to only solo selfound online:)

just quit… let player drop, then dev maybe will reflect what & why player leaving the game

What runs did you make in those 7 hours? What char with what build? How long does it take you to do a Chaos run for example?
The fact that you sank 7 hours into the game and got nothing doesn’t necessary imply that you did them fast and efficient. Give us some details.

The drop rates are more than reasonable. You just need to farm fast and efficient. And remember…it’s all for nothing if you are unlucky…but as I said it multiple times…Someone needs to be on the edges of the normal distribution curve.

So embrace your lack of luck…persevere or quit.

NON tele build High Efficiency Speed Farm runs… TOP END FASTEST NON TELE RUN POSSIBLE.

I kill Several Unique and Super Unique monsters ALL NIGHT LONG. about 12 hours now…

I should stop and go outside. These drops are absolute garbage.

With even the loosest definition of “a few thousand” you’ve have had to play 11+ hours a day every single day since launch

All I see here is another person grossly exaggerating how much farming they have done. The odds of playing THAT much and not seeing HR’s would put you in the 1 in several million range. At LEAST.

Frankly I’m going with the obvious answer of “You are lying.”

I have played less than 1/10th that much and have still seen everything but Sur/Zod

There’s your issue! :slight_smile: You choose to basically shoot yourself in the leg and than complain.