Why don't you think before you act?

Yes, I know, another post complaining about the ban, but this time its someone who got left behind. I DIDNT use the map thing, and now I’m stuck here, alone, bored, with no friends I trust to play with. The community just got a TON smaller, the economy has been up-ended, and a lot of us have friends who lost accounts who arent coming back and so now we’re stuck picking up the pieces of whats left of D2r. Why not make their first ban a 30 day, so at least they can come back and play with us again after…? At least then it wont kill the community…

Why do this? I ask for p8 online, everyone says play with others, so I try playing with my RL friends, and you frigging ban them for how they want to play. They werent hurting anyone… A lot of the posts ive seen in the community sites talk about how they were doing BAAL runs to help the community, now thats over too.

I guess what I’m saying is people shouldn’t be happy about this, its sociopathic! We’ve just lost THOUSANDS of players all at once in a game that was already hemorrhaging players. :frowning:

I should make it more clear… NONE OF US were on ladder, we dont want to compete, we played open battlenet back in the day, and so we play its equivalent now. (Online, non-hardcore, nonladder) I understand competitions should be fair, but thats not what I’m talking about here.

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Shouldn’t be happy that people who cheated got caught and punished because it’s sociopathic.

Admittedly I took the bait because that’s some truly slanted mental gymnastics. 10/10 would ban again.

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What a cutiepie!
Dude, the world doesn’t revolve around you and your friends. You had friends who cheated and got banned. What does it have to do with us? Did blizzard force them or anyone to cheat?
Map assist is cheating because you can level faster by finding xp shrines in act1, find keys faster, find items faster etc. So you’re ahead of others by cheating. In any sport’s competition, the person caught intaking forbidden substances is disqualified. Playing online ladder is a competition.
Get over it, walk out, take some fresh air.
And bots were banned too, looooooooots of them.

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Yeah everyone wants it their way. That’s why you see them posting their ideas.
But if you hack the game your way then you got ban their way.
Cheaters are never needed and they always come back don’t worry, they like it.
Been like this for two decades don’t act like it’s unexpected. I can wait here until the game is dead, it will outlast everything you name.

I hate cheaters, but in this case, since it is not a BOT, even in my opinion a “first warning ban” of 30 days would be right. Do you keep doing bulls*it? then I’ll close your account forever. I know many people who took the ban just because they tried MH just for curiosity, I’m sure they wouldn’t do it again! spending 40 dollars again doesn’t seem the right punishment for being the first time!

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Seriously, what the hell are you talking about? I dont know anyone banned from that. Not one of my friends or people i know.maybe make friends with non cheaters? :slight_smile:

I am glad for every cheater we lost. Less people who have unfair advantage over legit players.

If you want to find people to play it you can visit us:

What does it have to do with you? Nothing i guess, but i still want to complain about it damnit! It sucks! Y’all told me to be social so i did, and now i cant because those people are gone. :frowning:

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No, they were banned for actually patching/hacking the game and cheating.

I am not sure, but it may be this ban was directed at bots, if they use the same maphack.

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…i dont play ladder, none of us did. We’re all online, nonladder, non-hardcore, LOD. Maybe i should have made that clear. I dont care about the LADDER players banned…if thats a competition i guess i understand banning them… competitions should be fair… but regular play ISNT a competition, its just free-play. Its the closest thing to the “open battlenet” we used to have, and thats why we all played on it.

“Well, make new friends, here, theres a discord”

Thanks…very helpful… id rather complain that more than half of my REAL LIFE friends got banned, and the rest left in solidarity.

How about this… Let us have open battlenet back. Non-competitive, non-serious, people allowed to play together freely however they choose to. Since you all apparently need ladder AND online to be “super serious competition grade gaming”, let us leave to an alternative.
Give us the ability to download our characters off the online and let the banned players play there…and ill follow them there! Then you guys can keep your purity, and i get my friends back… plus maybe thatll mean ALL those players who swore they would never buy d4 or play immortals might be willing to try those games too… because as it stands a lot of them won’t. Theyre done with blizzard as a company if its gonna be like that.

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Cheating is cheating unacceptable especially on a ladder where it’s a competition. Simple as that. The economy was upended when thousands of players used map hack to get to bosses faster than legit players and farmed up gear quicker to lead the economy. Especially when if you study map tile sets you don’t need maphsck

…and thats why i didnt bother ever learning how to do the map thing, yes, i know it, but IM disabled and stuck in my house most of my life so ive got the time to do it that way, most of THEM have jobs and lives and stuff and didnt want to spend hours memorizing the map tilesets to use the “mental maphack”. But as i said, not one of us was on ladder, I dont even have a ladder character, because competition is NOT what we were here for. We were just here to play around, do ubers runs, play with new builds, etc.

we need static maps and loot filters

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Id…be down for that too i guess? New features…woo! Lol… honestly im not sure what all the map hack thing gave or why they needed it but the regular version of nonladder is the least competitive play area blizzard even left in the game from the old days, the open bnet players needed somewhere to go, and thats where we ended up. This wouldnt have been a problem at all if they hadnt removed that option.

yeah, my point is, many, for what we can see (me included), want these kind of qol

whats the problem of hunting for and finding a good seed to call it yours?

just make sure “every” account has a different code for each seed to prevent seed sharing

lootfilter necessity is a no brainer anyway

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I mean… honestly, open bnet would solve that too by allowing mods like the maphack that got practically everyone i knew banned. Blizzard doesnt seem to want to spend money on this game anymore, so they should just leave it to us to have fun with. If it was allowed… hell… Id be interested in trying that loot filtering thing. Sounds like a time saver. TCP/IP was programmed into the beta, so theoretically they have the framework for open bnet even still. If they had a place people were free to use mods in, and people used mods OUTSIDE of that place, I wouldn’t be complaining at all because my friends would have played in the open area and I’d have joined them so I could play with them.

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Choose your friends better and you won’t be so lonely. Imagine that.

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Ill be sure to build a time machine and tell my grade school self, 30 years ago, not to play with the other nerdy kids in my class… thanks, so helpful

The people who used programs to gain an edge are to blame for shrinking the community.

If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.

If they want to, they can create another Blizzard account and buy another copy of the game. They can be the ones to pay extra to help continue supporting the game. :+1:

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They left, and other than ME the rest of our friend group that didnt use anything wrong left WITH them. Im the only one still playing… im TRYING to give a way that the community can regain a reasonable playercount, a way that LITERALLY would make everyone involved happy, but evidently that is soaring over everyones heads. No, youre right, lets NOT have a solution that makes EVERYONE have the game play experience they want. Lets kick out a ton of people, who obviously SHOULD have been on open bnet if they had been ALLOWED to do so, instead of just allowing open battlenet to be a thing again.

Maybe youre just young… is that it? You dont know what im talking about because you didnt experience it? If thats the problem i’ll explain. Open battlenet was a separate play area like a mixture of current singleplayer and multiplayer. Characters were player-side, games were player-hosted but the matchmaking was done by battlenet so you could find games just like online is now. There WAS a CLOSED battlenet too, and ladder, like current online play and it was against the rules to bot or mod there or anything just like it is now, but OPEN battlenet was open. No rules. It was WHATEVER you wanted it to be. Want to character create and go straight to pvp based only on player skill? go for it. Want to make 10000 different builds? Have fun, theyre all on your computer. Want to mod, or play with bots, or dupe, or whatever? Have at it. None of it was serious, none of it mattered, that was the point of open. It allowed FULL sandbox mode if you wanted it, but you could do it with friends.

If they re-instate open they could even give it players 8 and thatd fix ANOTHER problem with the game while still giving the “IT MUST BE PURE” people the regular servers AND the ladder servers AND the hardcore servers all to themselves.

In essence… it would be a perfect solution where “everybody wins” as my mom used to put it. …i wonder if people still teach kids that… might be a generational thing.

I’m glad that Blizzard is cracking down. Maybe this will be the big warning to the players that they mean business… Don’t cheat, or you will eventually pay the price.

The perfect opportunity to make new friends who don’t cheat is upon us right now…

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