Why do people say that melee is dead now 😂?

But that means your experience is bad and lacks in depth knowledge of how to make an efficient char. Nobody is rowdy, you just fit a mold and now I can see that you’re fine with being bad. All good bud :slight_smile:

Okay, cool. I can’t change how you feel, nor your pompous attitude.

You must be fun to hang out with. /s

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You’re very confident in your idiotic opinion. And assume that just because you’re wrong I’m being pompous. Nice :slight_smile:

Who said I think I was right? I even said, “your experience may be different, fine”. Projecting much?

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Post must be at least 20.

Okay, then you said something against it, and my response was “your experience may be different.”

So, what, I can’t admit I have been wrong? Why are you so into making assumptions about me when you don’t even know me?

People say this because they dont understand the game.

I am using lawbringer or berserk, immune are not issue for barb already if you know what to do.

Good luck getting that charm.

Unlike you, he knows that barb is best char for mf.

Maybe for noobs who do not know how to play the game.

Depends how you play him. I like more active aproach, I use merc strategy only on pindle basicly.

Fair point. I was proven wrong about that, and I admit I was wrong. I apologize if I came off as rude. It was just my personal experience, so I was under the wrong assumption.

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sunder charms seem good for every char aside from melee paly, who can bypass phys immunes with the unique balrog spear or B.Hammer.

All good that you’ve seen the light, people mistake my bluntness as being rude. They’re just the facts. Melee should be competitive PvM it isn’t except 2 ways. The charm however was never going to be the way to make melee good in PvM.

We can definitely agree on melee being out-classed and about the charms being bad for them.

To make melee better, I think just changing the Attack Rating hit formulae a bit to improve hit detection would be a change I wouldn’t mind. Normally, I advocate for no changes whatsoever, but if changes are going to be made, they should at least make sensical ones.

Melee characters shouldn’t have to rely heavily on a level 12 ring and amulet to be able to hit things consistently. At least in my opinion.

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Melee outside of Hork barb and Smiter serves almsot no purpose. Giving them cleave based off weapon range only give them a tiny benefit tbh and would just turn them into another meme PvM build. You could erase physical immunity from the game and still hork barb is the only PvM melee build that regularly gets used.

Guess you don’t have much experience with different builds and classes or play them not very effective. Especially in p8 the gap gets wider.

The entire game shouldn’t be balanced around the 0.1% of people who spend a dozen hours a day grinding and getting the absolute best gear and a stash full of perfect charms.

Tell me with a straight face that a Barb can’t magic find in a P8 game. How fast they can do it compared to your Lightning Sorc you spent months worth of play time on is irrelevant to 99% of players.

If designers kept capitulating to this obsessive power gamer philosophy, then the game would only have one class and one set of gear and devolve into a cookie clicker game

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I tell you with a straight face that a caster does 3 p8 games while your barb does 1.

This doesn’t make sense.

That’s not what I asked you and it’s also not a factual statement.

You are right, the light sorc is even faster in bigger areas with high density.

And that’s a fact. Don’t start with your feelings and just time your runs. TZ even makes it worse for barbs.

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So you’re agreeing that a Barbarian can magic find in a P8 game?

So you are agreeing that we are not talking about nano seconds differences?

No matter how often you try to change the topic, your false statement stands

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Nice strawman…

Please feel free to point out any time I brought up MF… :rofl: