1.10 created the gap between melee and mages. Before that it was pretty balanced especially in classic. But monster buff + mage gear buff broke the balance
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So we can conclude that thereâs a gap because d2 dev in the past (1.10 and later) and at the moment simply hate melee/bow builds, and will never do anything about it.
Mostly melee. Bowa is still somehow competitive as long as we donât have to kill a boss like Diablo or baal.
Thanks for that! Are you running him in online mode or SP offline? (I havenât had any luck with mine online, still crap drops and only low-mid runes, so just been focusing on lvlâing other char as high as I can)
This clearly a troll post but still ⊠shows Many ppl that ate NOT melee mains /know Lil about barb (mlee) mechanics and problems.
- melee is NOT dead , we agree on that statement but it was NOT the case to begin with . A better phrase would be " melee While not dead is lightyears behind casters" .
AM a barb player with lots of experience and yes , we donât need that useless charm (we never ask for it ) the problema with melee start whith the AR formula + block chance . Inmunes arr are but the core mechanics Wrecks melee , specially with Tz increased monster level .
You point out the barbarian being THE absolute Best mf ⊠thats bcuz of only 1 thing ⊠find item , it has nothing to do with the barb being melee , imaginé for a sec that another class had find item ⊠Yep You wouldnot see Many barbs .
About the ww topics⊠understand this : ww is NOW affected by slows wich forces the use of phaseblases due to their natural -30% IAs . We donât Even speak about 2h ww for non swords . They Got wtfpwned. The BA + loh and warlords gets blasted by just 1 slow ⊠Yep thats a HUGE nerf âŠ
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Maybe they werenât undead, but in 92+ lv TZs I am running into phys immune that Decrep on Lawbringer and Reapers isnât breaking.
How is he the winner? Being the winner of the patch, what exactly got he buffed?
Any dual ele sorc beats him easy. Barb becomes the best MF char only with Enigma. Having Eni, what purpose do MF runs have? Zero
Runes drop by killing thousands of enemies. Others can do that, he cannot.
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Let me describe a typical melee char:
Teleports, makes enemies flee in terror, pokes those few that donât - spend more time screamin at corpses and sifting through items. Profit.
Cool story.
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There is no monster with more than 100%. And most immunes is undead. That being said, stone skin elite mob can get higher than 100% and if they are not undead, they wont be broken. But its not often and in situations like that works other skills, like Berserk for example.
Most effective way to get HR are High density monster killing, travincal and object running and ghost killing. Barb dominates at two of these because of Find item., he can also run objects very well because of howl so monsters do not get in way.
Becase he can now run basicly any high area zone and dont care about immunes mostly. Others will have issues with immunities in terror zones. You talk abotu double element, yeah you can play those, but they are usualy just weaker builds.
I thought the issue with Terror zones was going to be the AR issue. You canât use being over leveled as the means to hit things thus you have to solve it in other ways. I didnât test the zones at all and Iâll still do a melee, but I was expecting to be missing more than I would normally between 85-99.
It is clear to me that melee is about where it shoukd be, and everything else shoukd be balanced downward.
It is for that reason, that i absolutely hate 2.5 and will not be playing.
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Youâre just a liar. Scroll through my 230 post history not once did i ask for that.
Liar liar pants on fire
OnlineâŠI use it mostly on p1 doing trav and in p2-p5 doing split mfâŠover p5 starts to fall behind. Otherwise more than decent clearing speed with dual ba ww.
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Dude you lied about me so many times that you would have to be burned to ash long time i go.
You ask for p8 solo, that means more drops. Period. Yeah yeah you said that you with be ok with not increased drops. But i dont belive you soâŠ
what weapon you making passion in?
Iâve never made a Passion.
The thread that references such is thisâŠ
The MaxRoll link shows it is a Phase Blade.
P8 is needed for monster difficulty not drops. Over and over ive stated this. Drops dont matter if they keep or remove. You even acknowledged i said this atleast once. Ive not lied to you about anything. Its not in my character. Im consistent and true to fairness. The things i advocate for on these forums (there are like 2-3) you will not hear me deviate from.
But speaking doesnt matter cause you hear nothing, make personal attacks, argue non-relevant issues to feel superior, post memes about bullies bullying others. The term forum troll was invented for that exact reason.
You will never hear me stop for higher difficulty (p8), giving shifters teleport inform, or melee classes splash damage oe something like it.
See you always to say the same thing. Never going to stop till it happens
I think you missed the point dude. Yes, barb has find item and thatâs what makes him good, cool, but the melee sunder charm is essentially worthless on most traditional melee builds and all melee builds donât have find item because theyâre not barbarians - not that find item has anyplace in this discussion to begin with.
Like youâve mentioned, but donât seem to understand, the point IS that you donât need the charm at all because it IS worthless.
Melee is far from dead -true- but melee definitely benefits the least from these charms which is confusing because melee has always been much slower and more dangerous compared to casters.
Also, remember that bow and throw builds exist as well.
Oh, and if youâre trolling: bravo, youâve got a real talent for it.
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Melee is just fine.
Melee just donât use charm and ur all good.
Barb still best MF in game.
Smiter still best uber killer in game.
Ignore physical immunes it isnât like theyâre all over.
Everyone wants everything to be perfectly balanced or whatever. Who cares if the charm doesnât work. It isnât anything special for a hdin, but nobody is crying over there. I honestly think this is why so many on this forum are so awful. They couldnât take the advantage of their builds and use it properly, theyâd just bash their head against immunities all day and never actually killed enough mobs to get anything. I honestly think thats where all those threads about bad drop rates in this game come from.
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