The attack speed of all wereform druid skills are bugged. All of the druid’s attacks are extremely slow. Also, I think the demon crossbow is way slower than it should be. I tried out a Mist demon crossbow and it should be attacking at -80 attack speed for a shapeshifted druid, but it was attacking as slow as a Cranium Basher.
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Posting this for visibility and in case it is a bug - og posters are goom and gel
To put numbers to it:
Human druid attack frames:
BXW: 20
1HS: 19
2HS: 21
1HT: 19
2HT: 23
H2H: 16
BOW: 16
STF: 17
druid attack frames:
A1: 13
S3: 10
S4: 7
its hilarious how slow druids attack now
Assuming they use regular ias formula now we can check with tomb reaver:
90ias tombreaver + 50 off wep ias = 140ias, 10wsm. Lets assume 75sias from werewolf skill.
EIAS = Floor(120ias/(120+ias)-wsm+sias
Eias = 129… But adding any ias wont help any… Cause its capped at 75…
So werewolf skill add 75, wsm removed 10… So u have 10eias left to boost with ias…
IAS needed to reach EIAS breakpoint = ceiling((120(EIAS- SIAS + WSM))/(120-(EIAS - SIAS +WSM)))
This gives 11…
11 ias in total is all you need to max out ur speed… So using an eth death cryptic axe + highlord and ur at max ias.
Ceiling(17256/(256(100+75)/100)) = 10 frames…
So u can max reach 10 frames attack on a wolf if understand correct and now every form of ias is useless more or less.
So bow is slight faster:
Ceilinf(16256/(256(100+75)/100)) = 10 frames as well…
So yepp, useless…
Keep the old shaper formulas, modify eias/speedincrease cap to 200 and shapers are fine… If they are really annoyed by the fact assa bear can then reach 1 frame on a 24frame rated breakpoint system, which will render the attack to fast for the breakpoint system, then they can just choose eias cap of 199 and assa wont get that problem/bug…
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I appreciate the calculations, you have a far better understanding of the game than I do.
I have a question here. I am a druid noob but I tried out the druid werewolf during the beta and I had the feeling that the werewolf attacks much slower than in human form. Now it feels faster. But I am playing the druid from the beginning and have only one point in werewolf and werebear. Is the speed problem something that only high level druids experience e.g. with maxed were skills? I have seen many people complain about the speed thing and just do not understand it.
this is a comment from the reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/sddg5o/werewolf_and_werebear_attack_speed_changes/
They are attempting to make your gameplay experience as a wolf druid the same at higher levels and lower levels. In their attempts to accomplish this, they lowered IAS for everything when it was already too low to begin with. They think this will increase build diversity, which it will, because now everything is extremely slow so you are not limited to the Tomb Reaver anymore. But it will only increase build diversity if the shapeshifting community actually continues to play, which I’m not sure they will given these changes.
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I cannot believe this. This was intentional?
We needed to buff attackspeed so that other weapons can be attacking fast.
Not nerf so fast weapons are slow.
Who wouldn’t love a 4-6 frame attack on BOTD with off-weapon ias increase.
Instead we have this. Which they need to revert and buff.
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I just read the blue post. This is insane, shapeshifting druids will be literally unplayable now. “We will be looking at ways to improve the performance of the transformed Druid without sacrificing the benefits obtained from unifying the attack speed calculations.” Literally that’s not possible. Without attack speed druids are nothing.
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