Why are players offering Sur++ for a Lo when Sur is technically half a Ber which is the most sought after, I don’t understand the logic even tho Sur is used less frequent vs Lo for popular runewords.
Well it is exactly because in how many usefull/commonly used rws said rune is.
That is why cham is worth very little compared to ber.
Also for high runes almost no one is cubing them it is not worth it I am afraid.
But cubing 2 sur to get a ber is worth it for example.
Or why ber is best rune because it is used all over the place + even providing DR.
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but once you get a sur, it’s pretty much so close to ber. The value of sur should retain high technically, at least not less than a Lo LOOOL. It’s just strange that people are offering Sur + ist or something for a Lo, I don’t get the logic. Even 1:1 ratio, it’s a bad trade imo.
Well yeah but look at how often is LO used → grief, forti, phoenix and doom(niche).
Now lets take SUR ones → bramble (niche), dragon + HOJ (niche) , Last wish but that is overkill rw 
So grief is best melee weapon, unless you need CB for ubers, forti is great for merc/phys pvm builds, phoenix is used a bit too, doom just pvp I guess for bvc or some blizz or experimental winder.
Sur runewords are very niche fire/2x auradin is not common build as tesladin is more common and better or bear/zeal sorc, and Last wish is separate category as it needs 3x jah.
So LO is needed more for general usage. Sur is half a BER but will not make you said LO runewords. So it makes sense to do this unless you want to cube 2xSUR for BER to make lets say enigma.
LO gives also 20ds that is good for rare weapons like fools claw, and 5 max LR in items and lightning element is common in pvp. SUR gives useless weapon blind and 5max mana.
Also there is more demand for LO runes than for SUR, because SUR only has value in niche cases and as a half of ber, while LO is used often and even as standalone socket rune.
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You dont need to get the logic, it is what it is. BUT, if you want to understand, read Amon’s posts.
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Niche/useless runewords contribute far less to the price of items, Zod and Cham are worth a lot less than Jah/Ber because the former are only used in worse runewords. The best-in-slot runewords in the game are Enigma, Infinity, CTA, Grief, Fortitude, Beast, Chaos and Faith. They use Jah, Ber, Lo, Vex, Ohm, Mal, Ist, Um. They don’t use Sur. As a result, Sur has its value at half a Ber rune, because you can cube it. Lo has more value than half a Sur rune, because there are many uses for it without cubing it.
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hmmm… it’s just rune words usage but 2 Surs = best rune word in this game so essentially, even if i’m desperate, I’d never go 1:1 or top up for a Lo, that’s just me.
Because people are dumb and cannot think for themselves. Not too mention no one is allowed to provide an actual way for people to get things they want.
For me HR’s hold little value because I have a completely legitimate in game system that guarantees me an infinite supply of any HR of my choosing. So while people are doing their 500 runs and possibly getting nothing. I can get 4-5 H’s of my choosing in the same amount of time. And that is guaranteed.
That topic I posted was a week ago and it fully explained in detail the exact procedure I used to do pull that off. Within 15 minutes the topic was deleted and I was suspended with the reason given: Harassment.
The point here is that Items have little value due to the specifics involved, but exposing that, stops a lot of crap which is why things like that always get deleted or kept from the public.
Apparently Blizzard wants this stuff screwed up so people can argue about it.
Yeah, no one believes what you just said.
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The value of Sur is always half Ber
If someone is willing to pay half Ber and above for a Lo that’s their choice
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were you the one who wrote abt the hellforge quest getting up to a zod rune? It’s not possible becuz gul is the highest rune that can drop in the quest.
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Because that’s what people want for it, and that’s what people are trading for it. But a sur or anything else in this game has no set price, this is a barter system and in a barter system there are no set prices, you barter.
between Amon and Aucuba you have your answer. Its a system driven by supply and demand. If you cant figure out why a Sur is in less demand than a Lo than thats on you.
People always say that Yet no one has provided anything official to back up that claim.
People also say countess can only drop up to an IST but that was proven to be untrue.
Problem is with trolls is all they can do is SAY THINGS when challenged to provide official proof, they instead use a 3rd party source that verifies itself.
Sur is only less in Demand than LO because of Streamers…and no other reason.
what has it got to do with streamers?
Countess can drop up to ist from the *Special drop, not from the normal monster drop.
You have no clue what you are talking about
Lo is crazy valuable because grief is a GG weapon. Sur is less than or roughly half of Ber because not everyone is willing to hold out until they get a second Sur to get a Ber and no one is building a Wind runeword.
Dude nice trolling.
Countess can drop LO from regular drop and Ist from special drop as max.
Now SUR is in less demand because what I precisely described in comment 4.
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We’ll, this is so stupid, i have to ignore you now.