They should just rename this game

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Its definately not Diablo 2 Lord of destruction with updated graphics. This game is more like a live server test of how to trash a classic legendary game.

Its just one big ugly nasty ptr that should have never been sold to the public.

Stripping out core mechanics of the game, lowering the drop rate, moving deckerd cain in act 5, long load screens, trashed out chat system that is actually worse than the legendary original, censored chat, almost 5 x the stash space of the original game which trashes balance of the game ( call me out on this if you want, i already have THEE answer for you) , changing skills and synergies of ALL the characters, changing monster densities and nerfing items at the same time making this one of the crappiest games i ever started a new character to play the game with, and the list could go on, but most of us get it.

All the had to do was just update the graphics and leave the core features alone.

They didnt have to trash character skills and synergies to make a build more viable… The way that kind of stuff was supposed to happen is by adding new runewords and uniques to the ladder so you would have a way to play those builds wothout completely stripping out core mechanics of the game and re designing the character skill trees.

They should just rename this game to something like,

Please come mf with me.

LOL

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Yeah it’s called Diablo 2 Resurrected. Get over it.

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they didnt lower the drop rate. deckard cain’s position is how it was in LOD, it was just different between singleplayer and online. they chose singleplayer iirc. no monster densities were changed, no items were nerfed. the only core mechanic they removed is fhr in pvp, which many people want fixed. load screens are simply a thing with good graphics, and its being improved ever so slightly every patch. all the skill/synergy changes have been direct buffs with exception to whirlwind and wereforms which were more rework than a simple buff or nerf. there are definitely things to complain about, but you’re doing the equivalent of throwing a hissy fit

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Nobody cares about this nonsense, can you like stop trolling and go away? its not funny, never was.

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Drop rates are fine…you are not!
Get well soon!

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They should just rename this game

Ignored content

Huh… weird name but okay.

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How some people are when they don’t get a Ber or their 1st Shako after the 3rd loot run:

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Absolutely this.

I mean - gladly it hasnt become that bad, but 2.4 still made the game much worse.

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No one is putting a weapon on your cheek, dude. Just go find another thing to like.

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i gave the facts, you gave your own makebelieve story. please cite evidence of anything you’re claiming. otherwise you’re just a baby

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Makes a crybaby post then proceeds to call those that respond “crybabies”

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That’s the norm today, it’s even worse in pop culture. Commercials and movies go out of their way to make men seem like colossal morons, particularly white men, then when you point it out, they just call you “fragile”.

Best thing you can do is just ignore it, they secretly don’t like themselves or their life and take it out on anyone else.

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Pfft. Considering MFing is a solo gig, and the game doesn’t really incentivize playing with others for loot, only for xp and rushing, it’s exactly the same as the original in those regards.

You keep trying to make these claims on drop rates being changed. Outside of new 85 areas, and perm quest bugging Andy being built in, nothing’s changed. If your drops have been as bad as you say they’ve been, you either haven’t been playing, or you angered your patron deity to the point of cursing you with terrible luck. I generally have crap luck too, but despite no High Runes this season, still managed some decent drops and was able to trade into a couple of high runes to make a good farming character.

All you did here, was feed a troll that at this point, is just here to antagonize us forum occupants. As for the much worse, it’s subjective, but 2.4 has been pretty universal in people enjoying the balance changes that were not purists. The only legit complaints on 2.4, would be from subtle nerfs like WW (which was only recent), Druid Wereforms that changed the gearing meta, especially for o-skill based ones, H-Dins for the Holy Bolt changes (though, who really cares, H-Dins deserved to be knocked down a peg), and PvPers over the FHR changes (Sin mains from what I gather), Bone Necro and Bowa GA buffs, and those that still whine over WSG.

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I kinda have to disagree on that. While yes, the uproar could have been bigger, there are many issue - some are not even related to 2.4, but to a not optimal release:

  • TCP/IP support - biggest issue, since it makes mods basically impossible
  • removing WSG
  • nerfing FHR/stun
  • removing strength bug (its one of the only things i personally think is good)
  • removing ETH bugging
  • Barb WW is changed in a way basically nobody likes
  • Summon druid got way too OP with all of its pets

And I´m pretty sure there are a few more things - 2.4 fault was it to not bring D2R closer to D2, but to alienate it even more.

You seem pretty experienced with D2, you know that this community on the official forums isn´t representing the playerbase.
Blizzard should know that too.
I´m not a fan of FG and the p2w that comes with it - but jsp is just the way to go if you want to see how the majority really thinks.

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I highly doubt that we will see this return, and if we do, it will not be tied to typing in IP addresses. Blame hackers for that, though to be honest, having a mode of play that requires sharing of IP addresses in modern times, probably wasn’t a good idea anyways.

The PvP stuff is over my head, really, since I don’t partake in it. However, it seems that these changes encompass a number of things. Devs wanting to streamline work-arounds and hidden “features” while reacting to player complaints of stunlock with removal of WSG (which may or may not have been intentional, since they never officially commented on it), then Sin mains getting salty about the FHR over not being able to stunlock with Mind Blast.

Eth Bugging being removed was odd, since they had made a comment to not doing it at Blizzcon, then it happened anyways with no official comment on it either. However, probably have been part of the decision to streamline the above mentioned things so that game mechanics act in line with each other, especially for newer players.

I’d wait until 2.5 to really raise noise on WW. I have suspicion that they will update it further based on the response, just like with Wereforms during the PTR.

Summon Druid might affect pvp more than PvM, but is not OP in PvM and is probably weaker overall than Summon Necro with CE. That change had to happen to get people to actually use that build, as it was very poor in the post synergy world.

D2 is not 1.14d. D2 is the summation of it’s entire history. While the 1.13c balance may have been the longest lived, it in itself does not define what D2 is, nor was it even a Blizzard North patch or original creator vision.

As for JSP, it seems to me most of that community is comprised of PvPers, botters, cheaters. Not everyone, but a good portion of that community represents the community that ruined the original game servers. Those that are more legit, use it for it’s ease of trade (third party currencies) or are too old school to adapt to newer modes of communications and trade. The D2 community is comprised from many areas, that each have their own preference for communication. I’d say this forum gets a fairly big diversity from the major areas; there are Reddit posters here, as well as JSP users.

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QFT and people would do well to remember it.

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I mean, if you don’t like it, you can still play the original game. It’s absolutely still online and people are absolutely still playing it.

Otherwise, the door is over there, don’t let it hit you --------------->

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So if they had not stopped updates to classic D2 after its last patch, would you have been crying foul over them continuing to update the game? Updates keep a game alive and fresh. They certainly could have kept updating the original game and I really think very few people would have objected. Thus I consider it irrational to complain about them making changes in D2R. Again, if you think that version of the game is so perfect and can’t be improved upon or updated with new content, then by all means, go play that.

D2R is what it is and will continue to be the evolution to the original game that it has been since it launched. They learned from their mistakes with W3R and thus they did not shut down classic D2LOD and they even are still doing ladder resets on it. Go play that if you hate updates so much.

I gotta stop you there. Summon druid is far from “OP.” It got upgraded from “total garbage” to “viable.” Unless you get some particularly difficult rune words you only get stronger with more +skills and it takes a LOT of that to get its clear speed up.

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They did make some changes to the (new) lvl 85 areas*

I completely agree on every other aspect of your comment.

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lowered drop rate - only seem true to superior items…not the rest of the items from my farming experience

Cain is indeed an annoying placement(which we as player can easily request him to be placed again near sash for 2.5

long load screen(not sure what ya talking about)

chat system: certainly is quite awful compare to og and is in dire need to be fixed
censored chat: pointless crap which they should let us toggle on/off…this is a 18+ game and somehow adult are too sensible to some crude words ?..facepalm…even when i was a kid i could careless about a cursing sailor as long they weren’t an a----hole

stash space must have duh…how about you go play classic where you had no stash and even limit yourself to not use more than half your inventory if you dislike the quality of having some decent space to put our items find in ?

changing skills and synergies for builds in need was a nice addition so not sure why you hate it

changing monster dansity is a welcome change(open up more farming areas)…also dont get why you want ppl to slice each other troat to get the same farm spot for solo in public rooms

item nerfs ? what cha talking about ? the only thing they done is add in garbo runewords and make insight makable on bows

sorry but overall i think your a game masochist for wanting to have more limitations

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