Hey all,
I’ve had an off meta necro idea for a while, I wanted to voice the idea here and see which weapon was optimal.
This build idea is a mele proc poison nova necro. With Andy’s helm, and either eBOTD zerk axe or plague rw, a mele necro could proc tons of novas with synergy skills. With 3 piece trangs, bramble, and some poison facets, I could see it being pretty strong.
I’m debating between plague as a weapon or eBOTD. Plague has the lower resist procs, while botd has just better stats. Any thoughts?
With sunder charm the lower resist isn’t as essential so I’m leaning toward BOTD, but wanted to see what others thought.
Breath of the Dying. You can always just cast Lower Resist if you want it. That way you have more control over which curse is active instead of being at the mercy of proc chance. I’d guess Amp Damage, Decrepify, Life Tap, and Lower Resist being the ones to choose from.
So max Poison Dagger, max Poison Explosion, max Bone Armor/Wall? Max Lower Resist. That the build?
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Pretty much - maxing the poison synergies leaves a lot of room to add other things to the build. At first I was thinking of Bone runeword armor and to have bone armor synergies for the proc too, but I think bramble might be too good to pass for the proc novas.
There’s just several great items that proc poison nova and I was trying to maximize the potential damage output with something off meta.
Ultimately I’m not tied down to a particular version, but there are several fun ideas bouncing around in my head and wanted to get other people’s insights.
And what you said makes perfect sense. Besides, having curses gives him something to cast lol.
BotD will only cast Nova on kill, Nova will be your only way to kill, so starting the damage would rely on getting hit and andy triggering.
Plague would allow you to use Poison Dagger aswell, iirc the Poison Dagger damage from using the skill would deal more damage per frame than that of a proc’ed lvl 15 Poison Nova so it should not replace the Dagger, however I am not sure of this.
When facing normally immune monsters, the -23 Poison Resistance from Plague will have more impact than the Lower Resistance cast, which is the main reason this would be my choice.
This would also allow you to use Treachery and have the Venom enhance the Poison Dagger.
You should note that every hit you give on a poisoned target would stop the Poison from dealing damage in that frame, which might lower your damage output if focusing hits on a single target.
Either way your damage will be a lot lower than when you would simply cast Poison Nova every 2 seconds, because multiple casts don’t stack damage so proccing tons of nova’s would not increase damage dealt.
If you want to build the idea, you should and just have fun with it on NM diff, but I thought you might want to know this before building.
If you like building off meta proc builds, you might want to take a look at Brand, either as an archer or shaped as a Bear, both ways might be interesting.
If archer style add Enchant and Fire charms to use the Exploding arrow as secondary damage, main would be the proc’ed Bone Spear.
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i thought this was gonna be about a hipster poison dagger build but poison nova aint too hipster 
I would think about useing Blood Golem for the healt siphon and tankyness.
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Interesting idea, I often don’t consider it as an option with iron and clay
Yeah those usualy take the wheel, but i cant help but think how massive BGs health pool is and the LL is beneficial. Could be better if the their AR and dmg would be higher.
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Do plague on dagger and take adventage of poison dagger as ar support.
I had similar thu a qhile ago and made a char offline, its ok for p1, and thats really about it.
Id also use bone armor for the ctc bone armor on my build instead of bramble as well
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Awesome thanks! 
That all makes sense!
Melee Brand Bear Necro used to be a thing.
Max out the bone spear synergies and go to town.
northforce has a video, and some on youtube.
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That’s super cool, I like that idea! It is a necro mele build that gets is interesting and different but doesn’t have the drawbacks of how poison gets interrupted and doesn’t stack.