The game is completely taken over by bots, legitimate players are abandoning it because of this

Friend, this is where private servers come in, which invest in and detect bots and hacks, Ragnarok doesn’t only exist on the original server.

Oh i see, so you don’t even play on normal servers, so why is this thread created? Go get hired at blizz, clearly you know best otherwise my point stands, don’t get too serious about arpgs, this isn’t professional gaming

Patience, do you want to play D2R? So leave Warden on the antivirus safelist and that’s it, otherwise you won’t play.
Why couldn’t the player allow warden in their antivirus? Do you have something to hide?

I don’t think you understood what I said.

Decent drop rates would definitely make bots redundant and outdated :+1:. I don’t care one way or the other about the trading.

As for referencing D3… That does not match my experience with it whatsoever. I tried it again after the “smart loot” was added and the auction halls dropped (but before the infinite scaling silliness?). The drop rates were better than they had been during the auction hall era… but still about as piss poor as D2.

I tried D3 once since then… and it was somehow even worse. Torment levels? What the poop? How can an item even feel powerful if I can afterwards just up the difficulty of the monsters ad nauseum?

Yes, I understood my friend, it was you who didn’t understand, I didn’t tell you, I commented, as if I were asking someone who wants to play D2R, do you understand?

Nope, you still don’t understand.

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You open a public thread and don’t want feedback? That is very contrary and shows that you know that you’re in pain because the devs won’t giving you what you want.

How does it effect you if you play legit? Does bots gifting you all the goods?

There is nothing to defend, just gotta accept it, if you can’t, well then why bother?
This game is still very fun and has a insane replayablility.
Ofc it’s weird to see non-sorcs flying around after week one, but it almost seems like people are jealous about that.

Name me a single game where people don’t cheat/hack/bottin.
Lot of people can’t play legit and got that small P by birth, but I don’t see how this really effects me. I don’t get my stuff for free neither I get easier trades.

Is this something new that came with current ladder? Bots not just been running this ladder or the ladder before lol.
So your friends stopped playing D2 even before D2R? Like I said bots been taking over since many many years, wich btw. proves that this game isn’t dead at all.

Bots been there since forever dude, it was clear even before D2R got released that people will bot the hell out of this game. And yet it’s so enjoyable if you don’t bot and don’t trade with currencies outside of the game.

Even if they find a way to stop bots, there will be always another bot…

I feel like all the complainers are just jealous about other peoples gear and can’t enjoy the endless grind. In that case this game isn’t for you guys and gurls. It’s all about THAT grind, 100s and 1000s of repeating runs to find stuff. Trading and enjoy socializing, which is defo possible in D2R, everyone who cant, that’s an YOU issue.

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IF items were bound on account, I would envision the “increased drop rates” being based on two conditions:

1: The increased drops are active once Hell difficulty is completed. If playing multiplayer and someone in the game hasn’t completed Hell difficulty, the increased drops are locked for everyone. I feel the progression through the game in all its difficulties must be preserved as is for the first playthrough of each character.

2: The increased drops would depend on the average level of the players in the game. It would only provide an improvement in magic, rare, set and unique drop chances along with a marginal increase in rune drop rates (but not the quality of runes).

Normal drop rates would start increasing at level 60+, nightmare 75+ and hell 90+. The higher the average level above those marks, the more the drop rates are improved. Hell obviously gets the lowest improvement with only 10 possible levels of improvement, and I think that’s only fair. There shouldn’t be too great of an increase for the highest tier items.

One of the many reasons i play D2R is because items can be traded and the fact that it doesnt have overtuned drop rates like D3 and D4. Drop rates are fine as they are and we really dont need another D3/D4 clone besides the drop rates are actually what makes finding items more interresting and so much more satisfying when u find something good, in D3/D4 its more like “oh i found another one so now i have 50” its just boring.

Having increased drop rates gated behind a specific lvl requirement will just give people even more reason to bot. Bots dont sleep and they dont pause or get tired, they can probably reach lvl 90 in 1/4 the time a human player with a normal life and needs and they can definitely reach lvl 99 way faster than the average basement dweller.

Its a huge NO! from me to account bound items and increased drop rates

It was just thinking out of the box. You’re safe, not at all expecting it to happen. The mass botting will continue. :stuck_out_tongue:

Nah legit players are abandoning it because blizzard removed the means to improve it and won’t do it themselves…. That’s and the crappy server quality

If thats the game experience you want, why not just SSF on single player and use a mod to increase drops?

The whole point of playing on Ladder is trading. If you restrict trading to limit botting, that’s really a cure that’s worse than the disease.

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Take back control.

If everyone ran Bots we could ruin the Bot economy !!!

But yeah I’m quitting too, see you next Ladder Reset …for a couple of weeks.

Nope nothing is gonna happen and to be honest im not even sure i would want the current blizzard devs to mess with this old game at all. If i could pick just one thing for them to change it would be stacking of runes and gems, this would be massive Qol and they should be able to do that without screwing up the game. And yeah the botting will probably continue as usual but thats another story and definitely not a good excuse for raising the drop rates and making the game as boring as D3/D4

The big problem with stacking is that gems and runes each have unique item ID’s, which was part of the rust storm system to help eliminate dupes. The way the game was designed doesn’t allow the stacking of the same items with different item ID’s.

Gems, I’m not too worried about… Yeah, someone duping them would gain unlimited rerolls of charms… Runes on the other hand… Duping a 10x stack of Bers into 39 more stacks of 10, yeah that can get out of hand real fast.

And yet Project Diablo 2 wich is just a D2 mod did this no problem and so do other similar games like Path of Exile where u also can stack currency and they dont seem to have duping problems

The item ID’s were likely removed.

Path of Exile was also released in 2013, so there was more experience to take care of obvious duping loopholes that weren’t so obvious in 2000.

Well im not a wizard at programming so u would have to ask the devs from PD2 how they did it but fact is they dont seem to have problems with duping and neither does PoE so they must have some other solution to the duping issue

Jester
:laughing: :laughing: :grin: you don’t deserve my attention

Pede
regarding stacking
As a dev, I don’t see any problems in developing IDS stacking of runes, items and gems, something not so advanced.
But the big problem is the bots, the game is fine as it is, except for removing the mosaic, the rest is great.