Just thought I would make this post to get suggestions for the foh rebalancing. As most people know it’s already very powerful in pvp. To keep it from getting out of hand I feel like they should just tweak the holy bolt damage on the skill. Piercing is a good start, if it could damage undead and demons that would make it much better. Obviously tweaking the synergy bonuses for the holybolt side would be ideal.
Any other ideas for buffing the skill for pve without making it op in pvp?
Well, there’s so much absorb available that’s actually banned in GM PVP, I don’t think FoH will get out of hand as long as people stack absorb. It’ll probably still do nothing if you use the right items.
Also, during the dev stream, it sounded like they were simply going to give it a chance to pierce. They also said (4-5 times) how they were keeping an eye on how effective all of the changes are in PVP in the early, mid, and late game, and they’d take all feedback from the PTR very seriously.
Is it possible to have it do less damage vs humans ?
I remember a time when Holy Bolt itself only did damage vs Undead.
(Needless to say it was one of the least frequently used skills in the game, too.)
FOH has been banned in tourneys because it’s considered bm because it’s op. You need 400 res +absorb. My barb has 9k hp 300 res with tgods and wisp and still gets 3-4 shot by max dmg FOH lol. Gotta be able to 1-2 shot them before they 1-2 shot you with a skill that never misses and hits from anywhere 
It was banned because of the targeting glitches, desynch, and ease of locking onto people with third party help, not because the damage itself is massive. Which is why it isn’t banned in D2R, and FoH’ers aren’t even c tier in PVP. Pure FoH’ers literally don’t exist in D2R PVP.
You can get like 4 times that amount of absorb, lol, and 400 res is not too much to ask for, least of all on a barb.
I wasn’t complaining about the dmg. It’s the dmg coupled with target lock and always hits that’s the problem. I was just stating a fact. It’s banned in tourneys for a reason. They never unbanned it lol. There is a reason I made an FOH pally myself. To never lose a 1v1 in bm. And guess what, he hasn’t lost yet.
i have to be agree is weird they touch foh the paladin have already so many build . and foh will never be a pvm skill and in pvp foh is already strong ,
be ready to carry 2 Lightsabre 
back in 1 .09 i have a paladin of dead using hammer and foh good luck again this
You generally run into absolute baddies in BM random PK situations. Like 1.5k hp hammerdins who slaughter games of noobs, when in reality, anyone with a decent amount of experience on a solid barb won’t get hit with a single hammer before winning.
In the competitive PVP scene, the pure FoH’er literally doesn’t exist.
That’s because, again…. It’s banned in the comp scene lmfao…. No ones talking about hammerdins. They aren’t a problem. FOH literally exist solely for bm atm. They aren’t accepted anywhere else.
Lol, no it isn’t. That was an old school rule because of the bugs and hacks in original D2 LoD. I don’t think you actually PVP. The vindicator is an A+ build that uses FoH as a secondary and switches periodically VS other casters.
You seriously don’t PVP competitively.
Wanna pvp me when I get home? After you lose you can talk to me about pvp some more. Be home in two hours. It’s still a rule. Show me a single tourney in the last 10 years where FOH was allowed.
Lol!!!
Since I proved you wrong and called you out on your absolute BS, you’re trying to save face by challenging me to a duel??
Sure. I can hop on tomorrow in the morning some time. I promise you though, you’re not going to like getting one-shot, lol.
You never proved me wrong lol. But good luck. We’ll cap the duels so you can relive it everytime you open your mouth sideways on the forum afterwards.
Here’s one, and it’s just off the top of my head:
But literally every tourny in the history of D2R allows FoH.
That’s vindicator build. Vindicator is not pure FOH.
Uhh, Coooley hosts the majority of competitive tournies for the past few years, and if he doesn’t it’s someone he plays with. None of them have ever banned FoH, lol.
I also showed a tourny where multiple vindicators were used, and a tier list including the vindicator.
Simply denying reality does not prove your point.
BTW, you should probably move out of your mom’s basement and do something other than D2. Only absolute incels are this emotionally attached to a perspective about a video game.
Coooley doesn’t host real comp duels. He duels, plays with and works with actual tourney players for his pvp build videos. They are not synonymous.
You’re starting to get really upset now. Name calling and saying stupid mom sh!t lol. The irony in your statement about emotional attachment to this game and your views on it. Lol. Save that energy for the duel. The talk doesn’t nothing.
HAHAHAHAHAA!!!
That’s exactly what I’m saying smarty pants!!! Your reading comprehension must have an inverse relationship with your emotional attachment to this game.
Pure FoH doesn’t exist because it sucks, but the skill itself isn’t actually banned or it wouldn’t be used in PVP at all. In fact, you can look at all of the tournies held by the same crew of individuals, and FoH isn’t banned or regulated in any capacity.