Sunder Charms get rid of the immunity but your element resitance is still really strong, my charm says “Fire resist -87%” yet the monsters are still heavily resistant to my fire attacks. I guess it’s better than not being able to do any damage.
No they’re not very powerful on their own, as they simply crack the door open a bit to overcoming monster immunities, some of which are unbreakable without sunder charms. Its specific gear and skills which are needed to further reduce enemy resistances which opens the door further to enemies taking more damage.
The -element resist on the charm is a fair tradeoff for granting the ability to break monsters immunity to that element.
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You do realise the - resistance is applied to your resistance? Not to the monsters
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I now realize this, How much does the sunder charm sunder the immunity?
Sunder charms bring immune monsters down to 95% of the applicable resistance.
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It sets the specific resistance of monsters to 95%.
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I think they are great, I dont have any complains.
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How does that work well for you? If your element is resisted for 95% then your damage is significantly weakened.
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The only skills and items lowering res is Conviction, Sanctuary, Lower Resist, Amplify Damage, Grim Ward, -xx% Enemy Resistance (which cannot break immunities), Pierce (As of Patch 2.6 Cold Mastery is only 1/5th effective against monsters that have their Immunity broken by a different source.) None of these apply to me as a fire sorceress.
Wrong.
Conviction, Lower Resist and -enemy fire resist on items (Phoenix, Hand of Justice, Fire rainbow facet, Tal Rashas Orb 3 piece item bonus) will reduce sundered enemy fire resistances further.
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I stand corrected, thank you.
conviction, LR and any source of -% fire res do work (in the sense of further lowering sundered mob fire res) for a fire sorce
if youre thinking of hydra, the most recent patch made -%res work for it
Oh zip it… without them, 90% of viable builds today are useless…. It has expanded the variety of game play vastly. So ya… zip it…
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depends on what viable means to you though.
Sunders did NOT change viability for anyone. It really only made higher tier builds even more powerful… because guess what we all did before, just skip immune monsters! Really changes nothing in the grand scheme of things, you need near end game gear to truly take advantage of the sunder effect… but I guess blizz had no choice to make people who refuse to skip monsters happy, too many folks cried about how infinity can only break lightning immunes and is too expensive…
LOL now instead of hammerdin and blizz sorc we have dozens of other classes that can clear all… you’re ridiculous
you mean builds that were never meant to clear the game with 1 skill can now do so.
the game was never meant to be played this way, immunities were supposed to be an obstacle we overcome with multiple skills / merc. now you just pick your favorite skill and waltz around. it’s actually more boring than ever.
disappointing?
some of them are downright detrimental!!!
why in the world would a barb ever use a charm to break either physical or magic immunities when it comes at the cost of their own power?
so few mobs are immune to either damage type, yet you yourself will take on a massive nerf to your own survival, as (assuming you were to use both of them) you’d take 10-30% more damage from all physical attacks and 45-65% more damage from all magic attacks.
this is what we call a really bad trade deal, possibly the worst ever.
you get: slightly faster clear time on 5% of the mobs in the game
i (the mobs) get: to break your ****ing bones like they were made of twigs, because you’ve just nerfed your suvivability by a third or even a half of what it would be without having any of these charms in your inventory!!!
its like blizzard made a gun, gave it to physical/magic dps and said “here, use this” and then it literally backfires and you end up shooting yourself in the head.
the only class in the game that benefits from either of these 2 garbo charms, is the necromancer that specced for magic damage build (bonespear etc).
any and all classes are nerfed by the physical immune sunder. it has nearly no upsides and a serious very glaring downside.
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Just like the title, so was your mom!!!