just wondering as i don’t really like ce, mostly cause it can’t be used with left click mouse compared to bone spear, anyway, i’m wondering, can bone spear be viable for a summon necro?
H-how, just how can someone not love CE?
Can’t imagine bonespear being even 1/4th as viable as CE.
EDIT: if we are talking non-bosses/not-Ubers of course
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I’ll just say CE is an iconic skill for the necy and it’s basically the best clearer in the game. If you don’t like it, that’s your decision. CE works fine with 1 pt invested but people like to max it because the range gets really big. Once you get +10 to skills you have a decent sized CE with just 1 pt invested.
That said, you can max 4 skills in a normal build by your mid 80’s. If you wish to do a hybrid summoner/bone spear, you will need two of those 4 for your skellies leaving 40 pts to invest in Bone spear/synergies. At lvl 90 you can have 1 pt in all curses, all summons and max bone spear and bone wall. I’m picking wall because it offers the same damage as putting points into teeth or Spirit but it gives you a benefit to armor as well.
40 pts into bone spear with a +5 to all skills gives you a bone spear that does 628-668 damage or roughly 1200 dps. In comparison to other skills, 20 pts into mages will give you mages that do about 2K dps. Dropping those same 40 pts into PNova/synergies you get a PNova that does about 1100 dps. Naturally positioning and how many things are hit changes the relative dps. PNova offering the most potential in this comparison.
For some reason people hate mages and would rather invest the pts into something that does less damage but gives you the control to do the damage yourself. All in all it’s a phycological decision because some people feel they aren’t doing anything as your boiz kill stuff. I’ll admit I will start casting teeth during boss fights because I’m just watching at times.
Would Bone spear come anywhere close to what CE does…no. Most bone necy’s still use CE to clean stuff up. Would bone spear give you something to do…sure. Does it seem that bone spear does the least damage of the listed options…yes.
yeah, i can see my mistakes now that i tested more stuff yesterday againts poor cows, definitly going to use ce more than i used to and it makes things less boring while my army destroy opposition, once i’m ready for a respec, im going traditionnal with full skeletons, mastery, one point into clay golem, 5 to 10 points into ce, rest of the skill points for ce will come from my gear and charms then put points into poison nova so i can help my team even more and have a more engaging playstyle
another question, in the curse section, is it worth to go all the way to lower resist or i can save the points and get more synergies for poison nova/ce
This depends. If you play online I recommend getting LR. If you run with a sorc, javazon or trapper using LR will do far more overall damage than amping everything.
I also recommend attract but this is for unique situations where you can attract something to keep a group busy while your boiz are busy somewhere else. Take the cows when they are coming at you from three directions, attract one of the groups your boiz are not in and they will stay occupied until you can finish up the other group.
Both those things are situational. I get the curses so I can be versatile but many others don’t bother.
I would say CE is worth maxing, difference is really noticeable. If you want poison nova then LR is sort of must, but… I am not a fun PN/Summoner hybrid. They require quite different setup and do not mix well. For skellies/CE you want amp, for PN LR. There is also sort of gameplay issue - with PN you want to hit maximum number of mobs (kinda herd them) with bunch of skellies, merc and golem it is going to be quite hard.