Just to be clear, the precedents cited in Blacks are acceptable when you use them, but not when others do. 
Quoting Blacks isnāt quoting a precedentā¦
Itās quoting a definition
Yikes, lol. Please catch up.
Your saying the definition of money, is wealthā¦which is commonly used for objects of bartering, which is the same as sale - according to you.
Therefore, itās your position that thatās what the ToS implies?
Is that Correct? Trying to understand where you are going with this nonsense.
Thatās the kind of person tha canāt admit they are wrong so imagine when they are thinking they are right.
It is a lost cause at that point and youāre wasting you time.
JSP will still allow layers to cheat on every ladder / league / new game that is added to it and the only thing one can do is just simply refuse to use it. Blizzard is clearly not interested in banning jsp users so they will still parade freely on D2R forums.
Thatās about the only official game forum they can do this without getting banned at the end of the day.
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I would admit I was wrong.
If I were.
Blacks cites precedents. Yikes. You yourself have cited Blacks and its subsequent precedents. Double yikes.
It has always been my position that the term sales means the exchange of any item, material or immaterial, for any other item, material or immaterial. I have stated as such on many occasions. This is literally what is meant when I say that barter (item for item) is included in sale.
Pressed X to doubt multiple times already, still pressing X franticly actually.
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I have cited blacks as only definitionā¦
And a definition isnāt a precedentā¦lol
We have gone over the definition of sale numerous times.
Do you have a definition of sale that matches this?
So the definition of sale, is what you believe it to be, but not what is actually what is recorded in documentation under the definition of sale?
Annnnd because of this beliefā¦that you alone have, without any legal precedentā¦just your opinionā¦I might add, fg constitutes a volation of Blizzās ToSā¦which is written incorrectly with improper definitions?
Soā¦ sale means exchange of money, which could mean barter, which could mean wealth, which could mean sunglasses, which could mean an apology letter?
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So, if I give you a coupon for hug, and you give me a soj, you are violating Blizzardās ToS?
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if i trade you a coupon of a smile for you ko rune, we are violating the ToS?
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so traderie and related sites, discord, etc are all violating the ToS, by conducting sales outside the āplatform or gameā?
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is this forum considered the platform? Whatās your definition of that, lol. The platform would be battlenet?
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so with my FG wealth I can go pay my mortgage, since fg wealth constitutes money and barter and sale!. Good to know!! You require wealth to āpayā and my mortgage just says payable every month. Iāll trade my FG for some acorns and barter my wealth to my bank. My wealth is money after all!!!
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and finallyā¦you donāt have to provide no legal precedent for any of thisā¦because you donāt feel like itā¦? And this makes it fact?
Nope but if I give you a Huge and you give me a 1000FG it is because FG is a currency outside of the game and platform.
But maybe Iām wrong, last time someone asked if it was against the ToS to support the answer was: yes it is, they are just not interested in acting upon the ToS.
But at the end of the day who cares if it is against the ToS or not? What matters is:
- You can buy (and not donate as it is clearly stated you buy it on jsp) forum gold for hard cash which is RMT or its very close twin
- You can use past accumulated weath on a fresh economy shifring the balance in your favor which is cheating or its close twin
- You can use accumulated wealth from other games which shifts the balance even more, especially for newer released games (you can even bot in old D2:LOD and use your accumulated FG in D2R or any other supported game)
- JSP was built over a den of cheaters to begin with since it was selling a Diablo 2 bot for starters
Now you can come at me with ābut thatās your opinionā been there, done that ectā¦
Been edited. Thnx.
Coupon for a hug*
will definitely stand up in Arbitrationā¦wait.
Sale means barter, which means wealth, cuz definitions donāt matter in a legal document, remember!!!? Only the ones you choose that day.
see above
They were all opinionā¦You cant charge someone with murder because they killed a dog, and you define a dog as a human with no precedent.
You and Mith belong together.
Donāt know about that but you sure must feel very lonely to keep arguing legali vrap over this, would feel for you but it is more pity at that point.
Agree, I stil can call them for the despicable human beings they are for killing dogs tho.
At least you agreeā¦Mith is slow to understand opinion vs fact.
I would find them despicable too.
Bro this you:
Sale is defined as any exchange of items material or immaterial. Thus sale encapsulates barter. An exchange of a pair of sunglasses for an apology letter is a sale, as is an exchange of a cow for some magic beans.
- yes
- yes
- no, as the exchange is negotiated but not conducted outside of the game. The entirety of the exchange takes place inside the game and with items and services inside the game.
- unsure, donāt care
- no, not all wealth is required to be accepted as a means of exchange by all parties at all times in all exchanges.
- the legal precedents establishing these definitions are cited for you already
This is a definitionā¦are you confused? A precedent is not a definition. The sources are cited from the dictionary.
If I were using the case law in the definition as precedentā¦
A precedent is a an earlier event or action that is regarded as an example or guide to be considered in subsequent similar circumstances.
Provide a source for this definition.
A definition is not a precedent
And certainly not 4 definitions rolled into one.
Once again, the definitions are given as established by their precedent cases.
So uhhā¦.if this trueā¦.
Where is your precedent on:
Sale as barter in ToS contract law
Barter as sale
Wealth as money
Money as barter
Fg as currency
Fg as wealth
Iāll wait.
Ohā¦still waiting to see your sale definition too.
Show the world.
(Letās see how you avoid this)
Well Iāve already stated my definition of sale in plain English just a reply or two ago, but for reference, we started this tangent with your own supplied definition (which was a circular definition, lol):
If you want to provide LeGaL pReCeDeNt for your own supplied definition, feel free.
YOUR definition hey?
What about the actual definition. Can you provide some PRECEDENT to back up your position?
Already have. Wonāt repeat.
Wonāt repeat a made up definition, or provide a source.
Weird.
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What source this from again?
A sale is a transaction between two or more parties in which the buyer receives tangible or intangible goods, services, or assets in exchange for money . In some cases, other assets are paid to a seller.
This one?
Orā¦ please provide the source of the exact definition.